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To: caww
You're missing several important things:

1. In the OT, God says over 15 times that He "hates" the shedding of innocent blood. He calls it an abomination. Do you deny that?

2. Even if it is argued that God is the Master of life and death, and has the authority to order people to commit the abomination of murder in specific instances (as in the case of ordering Abraham to kill Isaac, or the genocide of the Amalekites or the Midianites)this was an exception, not a principle.

God commanded these killings, not as a general law (as if to say, "In war, you must always kill all the women and children" or even a general tolerance ("In war, you 'may' intentionally or indiscrimiantely kill the women and children" but as a specific command n a specific instance. They were never extended in the sense of a general rule.

Even more to the point, God did not order Harry S. Truman to kill all the people in Hiroshima/Nagasaki.

3. With the coming of Christ, God has established a new covenant with mankind (Jeremiah 31:31-34, Luke 22:20, 1 Corinthians 11:25, Hebrews 8:8-13, 9:11-15). Jesus and His apostles gave us a radically new understanding of the true intent of the Old Testament Law; they brought a new era of the rule of love for all people and spiritual truth instead of rule by law (Luke 10:25-28, John 13:34-35, Ephesians 2:14-18).

There is not one syllable in the example or the precepts of Jesus Christ that would justify the intentional targeting of noncombatants or the slaughter of blameless people. If there were, there could be no commandment against murder (one of the Big Ten) because murder is, by definition, an unjust killing, a killing of a person who has not merited a capital sentence.

67 posted on 08/06/2015 10:50:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He shall defend the needy, He shall save the children of the poor, and crush the oppressor.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m not missing any points.....we’re not arguing law here. God ordered the killing of children, woman and men to clear the “evil” that was and would be. (It pays to understand fully what evil is.)

Jesus warned.... “He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad” (Matt. 12:30)..... In the fight ‘against evil’ there is no middle ground, no gray area, no neutrality.

The prophet Obadiah severely condemned the Edomites for doing nothing when evil was befalling their brethren, the Jews..... When Jerusalem was invaded by her enemies, the Edomites “stood on the other side” doing nothing but watching the slaughter as spectators.... God said by their failure to act and to help their brethren “even thou wast as one of them” (Obad. 11).

The same could be said of ISIS today....their woman and children are brainwashed fully and I would be comforted if their children were in the arms of Jesus in heaven rather than be raised to love hate and death as they are... and kill as they surely would.


72 posted on 08/06/2015 11:27:05 AM PDT by caww
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