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Adopt a pitbull, they are so misunderstood. (Vanity)
Pit Bull Rescue Central ^ | 8/28/15 | Dallasbiff

Posted on 08/28/2015 10:41:30 AM PDT by DallasBiff

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To: DallasBiff

We are on our second pittbull. The most loving creatures.


61 posted on 08/28/2015 11:37:37 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: Boogieman

And it continued well into the second half of this one. My point is... unlike English Bulldogs, the fighting traits which have been bred out over the decades, the popularity of breeding pits for fighting continued and those traits are still very much present in many of them.

So, yes... Rly.


62 posted on 08/28/2015 11:37:45 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberalism is the poison ivy that infests the garden of society.)
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To: arbitrary.squid

I have a German Shepherd. She’s a sweet, obedient and loving dog.

A pet’s personality has to be matched to yours and fit your lifestyle or its never going to work out.

You and the animal have to be comfortable together.

My advice would be do your homework and due diligence before you adopt a dog.


63 posted on 08/28/2015 11:38:47 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Tennessee Nana

i was mauled by a chow chow. they are awful.

i’ve had 5 pits and they have been and are, all fantastic dogs!


64 posted on 08/28/2015 11:41:34 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: arbitrary.squid

>I feel the same way about German Shepherds. I know they are great dogs, but I had one try and attack me in 2nd grade, and the only thing that saved me was climbing up a baseball backstop and waiting until an adult came and chased the dog off. It bit me and ripped my jeans trying to get after me. I’ve never trusted the breed since.<

Actually, I’ve owned not only German Shepherds, but Belgian Malinois. Neither breed is for everyone, but I owned both breeds for a specific reason. I do sports with my dogs, they are not simply housepets. I researched the breeds and I contacted responsible, knowledgeable breeders. The dogs were trained and never, ever were they allowed off my property without me. I do not have the space to own another, so I will own smaller dogs from now on. I choose my dogs from responsible breeders because I do dog sports. I donate money to rescues and shelters but I will not be guilted into rescuing someone else’s behavior problems.

Rescuing dogs is a crap shoot. My daughter insisted on adoption, and ended up with a mixed breed that bit her boyfriend repeatedly and bit her father.


65 posted on 08/28/2015 11:42:57 AM PDT by Darnright (When a system acts illegally, its dictates are not the law of the land, they are the law of force)
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To: DallasBiff

...shares an enthusiasm for the pit bull breed.


66 posted on 08/28/2015 11:43:13 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberalism is the poison ivy that infests the garden of society.)
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To: getitright

There is a report about every two months here in Vegas of a pitbull attack on kids/elderly/pets. The maulings are horrific.


67 posted on 08/28/2015 11:46:51 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: DallasBiff

“I am a Trump/Cruz leaning conservative, but don’t understand the hatred against this breed.”

Realizing they go crazy and attack people - kids, animals, even their owners - maiming or killing them, isn’t hate. It’s rational understanding.

No one should own a pit bull without special training.
Every owner whose dog attacks others should face harsh fines and jail time if found negligent.

These dogs were bred to fight. It is a bygone era.


68 posted on 08/28/2015 11:47:43 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: onona

Just growing tomatoes, minding my own business. I can’t run like I used to, it woulda et me.


69 posted on 08/28/2015 11:48:03 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: ScottinVA

“And it continued well into the second half of this one.”

Sure, but the nature of breeding is such that the earliest decisions have the greatest impact. The initial decision of which breeds to cross to create a new one, for example, has the biggest impact, because that determines the gene pool for every single descendant. Breeding choices made in the first few generations have a slightly lesser, but almost as universal impact.

When you talk about breeding done well over a century after those types of choices were made, the impact is going to be negligible, barring some extraordinary circumstances, like a narrow bottleneck, or some extremely popular subtype being backcrossed universally with all the other branches. Those things don’t happen often.


70 posted on 08/28/2015 11:53:13 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DallasBiff
but they are the nicest animals on Earth, IMO.

My neighbor-lady did, too, until it wasn't and attacked her and her other dogs.

71 posted on 08/28/2015 11:54:22 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Boogieman
Jack Russells are like a full sized dog crammed into a tiny package, they have no fear whatsoever :)

Friends of ours have a JR/Chihuahua mix. It got the hyper-spaz of the JR, and all the afraid-of-the-doorbell-so-I-have-to-whiz-all-over from the Chihuahua. That's fun to clean up after.

72 posted on 08/28/2015 11:58:46 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: arbitrary.squid
feel the same way about German Shepherds. I know they are great dogs, but I had one try and attack me in 2nd grade,

Back late '50s the Rin-Tin-Tin series made everyone want a GSD. I've read that unscrupulous breeders met the demand by in-breeding their stock, and by the 60's there were a lot of them with temperament and hip problems.

73 posted on 08/28/2015 12:10:50 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: AppyPappy
But they kill more people than any other breed.

What you need to keep in mind is that when you're talking about pit bulls you are lumping at least half a dozen different breeds into this group as opposed to one breed like a rottweiler. In addition, there are an estimated 3-5 million of these dogs in this country. So you're going to see a larger number of these incidents involving pit bulls simply because there are so many more of them out there. When adjustments are made for population size, chows, rottweilers and german shepherds all have a higher rate of these incidents.

Like the ubiquitous "assault rifle" in mass shootings, anytime a report comes in about a pit bull attack it usually gets a lot more coverage in the media than other breeds.

74 posted on 08/28/2015 12:15:42 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: DallasBiff

http://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/american-staffordshire-terrier/

I have no prejudice against your breed. Nothing I stated in my previous post is not factual.

All canine breeds recognized by AKC were bred for a purpose.
ALL Terriers were bred to kill vermin of some type. All Hounds were bred to chase game using scent or site. All Working breeds were bred to preform a function such as pulling a cart or standing guard. All Herding dogs were bred to guard the flock against predators. All Toys were bred to be companion animals and cuddle. All Sporting breeds were bred to hunt game. The remaining Non-Sporting breeds such as the Standard Poodle or Chow had their purposes too.

The purpose of your breed was to fight bulls and be a guard dog. An English BULL Dog was also bred to fight Bulls, hence the name. A Jack Russell Terrier was bred to go into a hole and kill vermin, primarily rats. They are smart and make great pets, but I would not trust one around your hamster, rabbit or gerbil. My point is that you can not change hundreds of years of breeding. Your Pit Bull may be a fine pet. However, there is a much higher percentage of that breed in comparison to others that have been bred with the explicit purpose to fight and be aggressive towards other animals.

Dachshunds have one of the highest percentage of biting. However, if one bites you on the ankle you are probably not going to end up in the emergency room.


75 posted on 08/28/2015 12:19:01 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: AppyPappy
But they kill more people than any other breed.

An extremely misleading statement given that there are less than 50 people killed by dogs each year and the pitbull is America's most popular breed (6% of all dogs in the US).

You are three times more likely to die of a bee sting than from a dog attack. You are 1128 times more likely to commit suicide than to be killed by a dog. Your odds of being killed by a dog in any given year are worse than your odds of winning the lottery.

This is all much ado about nothing. Mind your own business and leave other people's dogs alone.

The most common causes of death due to injury in the United States



The table is derived from the National Safety Council's data on accidents. There are four columns: For more interesting statistics visit danger.mongabay.com





Source: National Safety Council "estimates based on data from National Center for Health Statistics and U.S. Census Bureau. Deaths are classified on the basis of the Tenth Revision of the World Health Organization's "The International Classification of Diseases" (ICD). Numbers following titles refer to External Cause of Morbidity and Mortality classifications in ICD-10. One year odds are approximated by dividing the 2000 population (275,306,000) by the number of deaths. Lifetime odds are approximated by dividing the one-year odds by the life expectancy of a person born in 2000 (76.9 years)."

Sort by: Manner of Injury | Odds of Injury

Type of Accident or Manner of Injury

Total Deaths in 2000

One Year Odds [1 in #]

Lifetime Odds [1 in #]





Pedestrian

5,870

46,901

610

Pedalcyclist

740

372,035

4,838

Motorcycle rider

2,765

99,568

1,295

Occupant of three-wheeled motor vehicle

23

11,969,826

155,654

Car occupant

14,813

18,585

242

Occupant of pick-up truck or van

3,268

84,243

1,095

Occupant of heavy transport vehicle

369

746,087

9,702

Bus occupant

20

13,765,300

179,003

Animal rider or occupant of animal-drawn vehicle

97

2,838,206

36,908

Occupant of railway train or railway vehicle

30

9,176,867

119,335

Occupant of streetcar

1

275,306,000

3,580,052

Other and unspecified land transport accidents

16,850

16,339

212

Occupant of special industrial vehicle

15

18,353,733

238,670

Occupant of special agricultural vehicle

273

1,008,447

13,114

Occupant of special construction vehicle

37

7,440,703

96,758

Occupant of all-terrain or other off-road motor vehicle

717

383,969

4,993

Other and unspecified person

15,808

17,416

226

Water transport accidents

630

436,994

5,683

Drowning

466

590,785

7,683

Other and unspecified injuries

164

1,678,695

21,830

Air and space transport accidents

777

354,319

4,608

Other and unspecified transport accidents and sequelae

496

555,052

7,218

Other specified transport accidents

2

137,653,000

1,790,026

Unspecified transport accident

4

68,826,500

895,013

Transport Accidents

46,749

5,889

77

Falls

13,322

20,666

269

Fall on same level from slipping, tripping and stumbling

565

487,267

6,336

Other fall on same level

1,885

146,051

1,899

Fall involving bed, chair, other furniture

650

423,548

5,508

Fall on and from stairs and steps

1,307

210,640

2,739

Fall on and from ladder or scaffolding

412

668,218

8,689

Fall from out of or through building or structure

506

544,083

7,075

Other fall from one level to another

687

400,737

5,211

Other and unspecified fall

7,310

37,662

490

Exposure to inanimate mechanical forces

2,768

99,460

1,293

Struck by or striking against object

877

313,918

4,082

Caught between objects

84

3,277,452

42,620

Contact with machinery

676

407,257

5,296

Contact with sharp objects

80

3,441,325

44,751

Firearms discharge

776

354,776

4,613

Explosion and rupture of pressurized devices

30

9,176,867

119,335

Fireworks discharge

5

55,061,200

716,010

Explosion of other materials

167

1,648,539

21,437

Foreign body entering through skin or natural orifice

36

7,647,389

99,446

Other and unspecified inanimate mechanical forces

37

7,440,703

96,758

Exposure to animate mechanical forces

204

1,349,539

17,549

Struck by or against another person

61

4,513,213

58,689

Bitten or struck by dog

26

10,588,692

137,694

Bitten or struck by other mammals

65

4,235,477

55,078

Bitten or stung by nonvenomous insect and other arthropods

9

30,589,556

397,784

Bitten or crushed by other reptiles

31

8,880,839

115,486

Other and unspecified animate mechanical forces

12

22,942,167

298,338

Accidental drowning and submersion

3,482

79,065

1,028

Drowning and submersion while in or falling into bath-tub

341

807,349

10,499

Drowning and submersion while in or falling into swimming-pool

567

485,549

6,314

Drowning and submersion while in or falling into natural water

1,135

242,560

3,154

Other and unspecified drowning and submersion

1,439

191,318

2,488

Other accidental threats to breathing

5,648

48,744

634

Accidental suffocation and strangulation in bed

327

841,914

10,948

Other accidental hanging and strangulation falling earth and other substances

333

826,745

10,751

Threat to breathing due to cave-in

64

4,301,656

55,938

Inhalation of gastric contents

382

720,696

9,372

Inhalation and ingestion of food causing obstruction of respiratory tract

744

370,035

4,812

Inhalation and ingestion of other objects causing obstruction of respiratory tract

3,187

86,384

1,123

Confined to or trapped in a low-oxygen environment

15

18,353,733

238,670

Other and unspecified threats to breathing

596

461,923

6,007

Exposure to electric current, radiation, temperature, and pressure

419

657,055

8,544

Electric transmission lines

99

2,780,869

36,162

Other and unspecified electric current

296

930,088

12,095

Radiation

0

---

---

Excessive heat or cold of man-made origin

12

22,942,167

298,338

High and low air pressure and changes in air pressure

12

22,942,167

298,338

Other and unspecified man-made environmental factors

0

---

---

Exposure to smoke, fire and flames

3,377

81,524

1,060

Uncontrolled fire in building or structure

2,776

99,174

1,290

Uncontrolled fire not in building or structure

68

4,048,618

52,648

Controlled fire in building or structure

50

5,506,120

71,601

Controlled fire not in building or structure

29

9,493,310

123,450

Ignition of highly flammable material

65

4,235,477

55,078

Ignition or melting of nightwear

9

30,589,556

397,784

Ignition or melting of other clothing and apparel

116

2,373,328

30,863

Other and unspecified smoke fire and flames

264

1,042,826

13,561

Contact with heat and hot substances

110

2,502,782

32,546

Contact with hot tap-water

55

5,005,564

65,092

Other and unspecified heat and hot substances

55

5,005,564

65,092

Contact with venomous animals and plants

80

3,441,325

44,751

Contact with venomous snakes and lizards

12

22,942,167

298,338

Contact with venomous spiders

5

55,061,200

716,010

Contact with hornets, wasps and bees

54

5,098,259

66,297

Contact with other and unspecified venomous animal or plant

9

30,589,556

397,784

Exposure to forces of nature

1,223

225,107

2,927

Exposure to excessive natural heat

301

914,638

11,894

Exposure to excessive natural cold

742

371,032

4,825

Lightning

50

5,506,120

71,601

Earthquake and other earth movements

35

7,865,886

102,287

Cataclysmic storm

49

5,618,490

73,062

Flood

5

55,061,200

716,010

Exposure to other and unspecified forces of nature

41

6,714,780

87,318

Accidental poisoning by and exposure to noxious substances

12,757

21,581

281

Nonopioid analgesics antipyretics and antirheumatics

176

1,564,239

20,341

Antiepileptic sedative-hypnotic antiparkinsonism and psychotropic drugs n.e.c.

704

391,060

5,085

Narcotics and psychodysleptics [hallucinogens] n.e.c.

6,139

44,845

583

Other and unspecified drugs medicaments and biologicals

4,693

58,663

763

Alcohol

302

911,609

11,854

Gases and vapours

631

436,301

5,674

Other and unspecified chemicals and noxious substances

112

2,458,089

31,965

Overexertion, travel and privation

185

1,488,141

19,352

Accidental exposure to other and unspecified factors and sequelae

7,576

36,339

473

Nontransport Unintentional (Accidental) Injuries

51,151

5,382

70

Deaths Due to Unintentional (Accidental) Injuries

97,900

2,812

37





Intentional self-poisoning

4,859

56,659

737

Intentional self-harm by hanging, strangulation, and suffocation

5,688

48,401

629

Intentional self-harm by firearm

16,586

16,599

216

Other and unspecified means and sequelae

2,217

124,180

1,615

Intentional self-harm

29,350

9,380

122

Assault by firearm

10,801

25,489

331

Assault by sharp object

1,805

152,524

1,983

Other and unspecified means and sequelae

4,159

66,195

861

Assault

16,765

16,421

214

Poisoning

2,557

107,668

1,400

Hanging, strangulation, and suffocation

104

2,647,173

34,424

Drowning and submersion

231

1,191,801

15,498

Firearm discharge

230

1,196,983

15,565

Exposure to smoke, fire, and flames

76

3,622,447

47,106

Falling, jumping, or pushed from a high place

55

5,005,564

65,092

Other and unspecified means and sequelae

566

486,406

6,325

Event of undetermined intent

3,819

72,089

937

Legal intervention involving firearm discharge

270

1,019,652

13,259

Legal execution

80

3,441,325

44,751

Other and unspecified means and sequelae

9

30,589,556

397,784

Legal intervention

359

9,972

Operations of war and sequelae

16

17,206,625

223,753

Complications of medical and surgical care and sequelae

3,059

89,999

1,170





All External Causes of Mortality

151,268

1,820

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76 posted on 08/28/2015 12:22:37 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: onona

He’s definitely evaporated.


77 posted on 08/28/2015 12:26:27 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: woodbutcher1963

My pit is the sweetest thing in the world, but I can;t take her out in public because a a cop will go “bang bang” when seeing her.


78 posted on 08/28/2015 12:26:43 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Lautenberg The Forefather of "The Nanny State!")
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Actually, outside of pit bulls, there just aren’t that many fatal dog attacks.
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-study-dog-attacks-and-maimings-merritt-clifton.php


79 posted on 08/28/2015 12:29:24 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: DallasBiff

Yes, they are misunderstood and that’s why not everybody should adopt one. I think they should only be owned by people who understand the breed and are very seasoned dog owners.


80 posted on 08/28/2015 12:38:54 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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