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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Also: amnesty does refer to removing a pathway to citizenship. By saying “We are not going to allow illegal aliens to apply for citizenship” Cruz is stating that there will be no ability for illegal aliens to remain in the country. I know you support Trump and his call for mass deportations, but the “no path to citizenship” does the exact same thing. Especially when combined with Cruz’s “enforce existing laws and pass stronger regulations to aid enforcement”.

Even if Cruz was arguing to give green cards to every person in the US illegally (which he is NOT), green cards still have to be renewed. Those who seek renewal and are not meeting the standards of employment— OR those who came here illegally— are supposed to be deported under current law.


92 posted on 09/08/2015 12:26:24 AM PDT by brothers4thID (Be professional, be courteous, and have a plan to kill everyone in the room.)
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To: brothers4thID
Oh, maybe I did miss this post of yours, but it's just a repetition of your assumptions made before:

Also: amnesty does refer to removing a pathway to citizenship. By saying “We are not going to allow illegal aliens to apply for citizenship” Cruz is stating that there will be no ability for illegal aliens to remain in the country.

Amnesty is any attempt to keep illegals in this country instead of deporting them. And as for what you claim is Cruz's intention to deport everyone: That's clearly not what the article states, which demonstrates that Cruz is in favor of giving legal status to aliens.

but the “no path to citizenship” does the exact same thing.

No, in Cruz's view, you can grant legal status without granting naturalization. Of course, that's completely ridiculous, because you cannot create a second tier of residents who cannot naturalize forever.

This is also the position of Walker, Rand, and apparently Carson, who view granting legal status as favorable instead of deportation, with the false promise that they will be "kept from citizenship".

Especially when combined with Cruz’s “enforce existing laws and pass stronger regulations to aid enforcement”.

And yet in that interview with Chuck Todd, Cruz wouldn't remove granting legal status off the table. Clearly Cruz's promise is only to "enforce the border" and the laws relating to stopping-- allegedly-- further incursions. He has never stated he favors any attempt at mass deportation or even to encourage self-deportation. On the contrary, he clearly favors granting legal status. He simply has not been open or honest in discussing this in every venue.

Even if Cruz was arguing to give green cards to every person in the US illegally (which he is NOT), green cards still have to be renewed. Those who seek renewal and are not meeting the standards of employment— OR those who came here illegally— are supposed to be deported under current law.

But here's the problem: They want to grant legal status because they believe deportation to be undesirable and impossible.

Why would an illegal alien who has been granted legal status be seriously afraid about having the law enforced on him at another date? He'll just stay until he is granted legal status a second time.

98 posted on 09/08/2015 3:32:04 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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