Apple: We are on pace to beat last year's iPhone first-weekend record

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[dennisw]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/27/technology/personaltech/ignore-the-looks-and-embrace-the-phablet.html?_r=0

This might help you decide. A family member read it and opted for large.

[Swordmaker]

The article seems to indicate that there really is a problem. I don’t care one way or the other. It would explain why Apple has to come out with these bug fix upgrades. They make money off the problems they create. Microsoft has a long history of doing the same.

Hairgate started with exactly ONE tweet out of Canada. . . and then there was a problem with people HOAXING the problem which ballooned to THREE. Wow! Three complaints. They made a YouTube using the Xiaomi knock-off which showed the Xiaomi knock-off phone grabbing hair.

Apple never got a single complaint from a legitimate iPhone 6 customer about hair being pulled. Not one.

Exactly what part of the English language do you fail to comprehend, Moonman? The word "hoax"? The phrase "Chinese Knock-off of the iPhone made by Xiaomi"? I used to have a photo of that phone around here and it is hard to tell the difference between the two. Xiaomi even skinned Android to look like iOS 8!

Xiaomi could import them individually into Canada but they were blocked from being imported into the US because Xiaomi doesn't pay ANYBODY for the intellectual property they use in their phones and tablets! Xiaomi was trying to enter the India market and got legally blocked for the same reason: stolen unlicensed patents and copyrights.

I posted several articles on this subject contemporaneous to the events. . . and the investigation. Wikipedia is not a good source for such things, Moonman.

Do you realize the percentage of the total production that THREE complaints represent, or nine in the case of the so-called "bendgate"? It's so minuscule as to not even be worth looking at. PROBLEM? It was ginned up by fakers. If you think that is a problem, you truly are an idiot!

[Swordmaker]

So why are there so many reports that Apple is beefing up the case in this new bug fix release?

Why did Apple make the MacBook Air strong enough to be used as a step in a ladder? Apple makes things stronger than the competition so they will last. Apple machined the last iPhone 6 out of a block of aircraft Aluminum 6500 alloy which was stiffened with steel L-beams running along the sides. It took a force of 120 lbs in a three point rig leveraged from either end and pressing on the center to start to deform the iPhone 6. At 145 lbs, the deformation would become permanent and at 165 lbs, the screen would crack or shatter. That is STRONG for an electronic device that was only 0.302 inches thick including the glass screen.

Only NINE iPhone 6 or 6 plus devices were returned to Apple for replacement because they were bent. . . out of over 150,000,000 iPhone s manufactured by September 2015. In what fantasy world do you live that you think that number of bent iPhones is a design problem that needs fixing. Those were determined to have all been deliberately bent by the application of considerable force in attempts to duplicate what their owners saw on-line. Monomania, you can't fix stupid.

[PJBankard]

you can use Apple Pay which is the most secure way to pay for things using a credit card which cannot be intercepted to steal your account, personal ID, or any knowledge about you or the transaction, or use that information to buy anything again.

A few things wrong with your statement:

1). It's used on a wireless device. Anything sent wirelessly can be intercepted.
2). Understand the difference between intercepting a signal and decrypting it.
3). Just because it hasn't been breached doesn't mean it can't be.

[Swordmaker]

So why are there so many reports that Apple is beefing up the case in this new bug fix release?

Monoman, YOU are the only one claiming the iPhone 6s is a "bug fix release." It is not. . . Not a single iPhone "S" models have ever been a "bug fix release."

The only thing that essentially remains the same is the case design. The internals and functions are majorly upgraded. You really don't have a clue about what you are talking about.

[Moonman62]

Yet the new bug fix phone is being made thicker, heavier, and out of some magic aluminum that is supposed to be stronger. Even the Apple worshiping sites are saying this.

http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-6s/

Obviously, the previous phone had a problem. Well, actually multiple problems. And I’m sure this new phone will have problems that will be fixed by the next expensive upgrade. Buy one or get excommunicated.

[Moonman62]

The internals and functions are majorly upgraded.

...

That’s because the last version was deficient.

[Swordmaker]

A few things wrong with your statement:

1). It's used on a wireless device. Anything sent wirelessly can be intercepted.
2). Understand the difference between intercepting a signal and decrypting it.
3). Just because it hasn't been breached doesn't mean it can't be.

It never ceases to amaze me the assumptions made by people who think that these things haven't been considered by the now over 3000 financial institutions who are adopting Apple Pay as the most secure means of paying by credit/debit card.

A few things wrong with your understanding.

1. It doesn't matter if it gets intercepted. In fact, go ahead. They don't care if the bad guys intercept it. It simply doesn't matter if they do or not. Apple Pay uses a one time token which is used for that transaction only and can never be used again, ever. Once it's used, it's worthless and since it's already been transmitted, it's already useless.

2. Again, even if they intercept and decrypt it, once it has been used, it will do them no good because it carries no identifying data, no transactional data that can be used to track back to the user, business, bank, service provider, or your account. The data is completely anonymous.

   With Apple Pay, even the merchant doesn't get any of your identifying data.

3. The device does not carry your cards numbers or data. The tokens are generated during the transaction and are between you and your credit/debit card issuer. Any data that is on the device is in a Secure Enclave INSIDE the processor which cannot be reached from outside the device. Only your living finger can initiate a transaction. If your device is stolen, the thief cannot get into it without your finger or passcode. Data on the device is encrypted to AES 256bit standard which would take 5.62 vigintillion (10¹⁹⁵) years to break using brute force. . . and there are no backdoors on Apple devices. Even if they could break into that, it still does not get them into the Secure Enclave inside the processor. That is forever inaccessible.

   Any data that is actually IN the Secure Enclave is kept there as a one-way HASH and that cannot be reverse calculated.

The financial institutions have determined they will save money by consumers using Apple Pay because there will be LESS credit/debit fraud and far less identity theft using this method of payment than with the traditional payment methods. Starting next year, the burden of credit and debit card fraud loss moves from the banks and financial institutions to the businesses who approve the charges, the stores and service companies you buy from. They will get a lot more strict about whether they will allow you to charge using your physical card, or not.

[Moonman62]

ZDNet has found another way people are being forced to upgrade to fix deficient phones.

Don't buy the 16GB Apple iPhone 6s

4K video, Live Photos, bigger apps, and ludicrous price per GB make it a ripoff.

[Swordmaker]

"The internals and functions are majorly upgraded."

That’s because the last version was deficient.

As I said, what you claim is just fixing "deficiencies" is much more. You, Moonman62, are an idiot because you claim these are "deficiencies" in what was the best selling cellular phone in the world which bested all other competition in bench marks for speed. From your own link to MacRumors, which you thought just proved they were making the iPhone out of new, improved materials

:

Summary

• The iPhone 6s has a new A9 processor is 70% faster in CPU tasks, with graphics 90% faster in GPU tasks, than the previous A8.
• The iPhone 6s are made of 7000 series Aluminum Alloy which is harder and stiffer than previous models.
• The iPhone 6s has a stronger, harder screen with dual ion exchange glass.
• The iPhone 6s has a newer 2nd generation TouchID fingerprint detection system that is twice as fast.
• The iPhone 6s has added Touch3D combined with tactile feedback for two different levels pressure input in addition to a normal tap.
• The iPhone 6s has a new Taptic engine for tactile feedback for screen presses.
• The iPhone 6s has a 12 Megapixel rear camera.for screen presses.
• The iPhone 6s has a new M9 motion processor for new functionality.
• The iPhone 6s has the new capability to video record in 4K at 30 frames per second. (Cook said 60 frames in the keynote)
• The iPhone 6s Plus has Optical Image Stabilization that also works with video.
• The iPhone 6s has Live Photo which adds 1.5 second of video and audio by default to every photo.
• The iPhone 6s LTE 4G has increased bandwidth and speed to 300 M/bs second.
• The iPhone 6s has 23 LTE channels that it can connect to.
• The iPhone 6s has a twice as fast WIFI connectivity at speeds up 866Mb/s.

• (The new Apple iPhones are. . . ) available with the same 4.7 and 5.5-inch Retina displays, the iPhone 6s and the iPhone 6s Plus have the same exterior design as the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, but much of the hardware inside, from the camera to the processor, is new and improved. Core technologies like the touchscreen and the vibration engine have been updated, and the new devices are even constructed from an entirely new material.

  The iPhone 6s and 6s Plus are made from a 7000 Series aluminum alloy, which is stronger and more durable than the 6000 series used in the previous-generation iPhones. Apple's also updated the devices with stronger glass, made using a dual ion exchange process. One of the biggest changes is the introduction of a new aluminum finish in Rose Gold, which accompanies the traditional Silver, Space Gray, and Gold color options.

  A new second-generation Touch ID module makes fingerprint detection twice as fast, and the 64-bit A9 processor in the two devices is 70 percent faster at CPU tasks and 90 percent faster at GPU tasks than the A8 processor in the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. A built-in M9 motion coprocessor enables new features, such as always-on "Hey Siri" functionality.

  With the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus, Multi-Touch has been expanded to encompass a third dimension through a 3D Touch feature, and Apple is calling this "the future of Multi-Touch." In addition to recognizing a tap, sensors in the iPhones can also recognize pressure, enabling a range of new shortcut gestures that Apple's calling the "Peek" and "Pop." A new Taptic Engine provides tactile feedback whenever the pressure-based gestures are used.

  Most of Apple's "S" year upgrades include camera improvements, and the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus are no exception. Both devices have a 12-megapixel camera with some internal improvements to preserve color accuracy and speed up autofocus. The iPhone 6s Plus has Optical Image Stabilization, while the iPhone 6s does not.

  With the improved camera, 4K video at 30 FPS is supported, and the iPhones can capture 63 megapixel panoramas. There's a 5-megapixel front-facing FaceTime camera with a True Tone Retina Flash feature that lights up the display of the iPhone just before a photo is captured.

  The most novel camera-based feature available for the iPhone 6s and the iPhone 6s Plus is Live Photos, a feature that captures 1.5 seconds of movement before and after a photo is taken to display short animations and sound when a 3D Touch gesture is used on an image. Live Photos is designed to add a sense of vitality and life to still photos.

  When it comes to connectivity, both LTE and Wi-Fi speeds have been improved. With LTE Advanced, LTE is twice as fast at up to 300 Mb/s, and 23 LTE bands are supported. Compared to the previous-generation iPhones, the iPhone 6s and the iPhone 6s Plus are twice as fast when connected to Wi-Fi, with Wi-Fi speeds up to 866 Mb/s.

Those are not fixes of deficiencies in a phone that was already faster than any of the competition. . . now being made 70% faster in CPU intensive operations and almost twice as fast in graphical intensive tasks.

[Swordmaker]

ZDNet has found another way people are being forced to upgrade to fix deficient phones.

I don't recommend getting the 16GB iPhone 6s either. It's basically for enterprise buyers who don't want users to put anything on the phone but what the business wants on there. . . or for people who just want a phone.

[PJBankard]

Your response again does not take into account that anything created by man can be destroyed by man. Nothing is impervious or full proof. You take anything that Apple comes out with as the Almighty and nothing could possibly be against it. As I said before, just because someone hasn’t figured out how to breach the system doesn’t mean it can’t be done.

[Swordmaker]

4K video, Live Photos, bigger apps, and ludicrous price per GB make it a ripoff.

These guys who compare SD card prices to the memory installed on the logic board of an iPhone don't know what they are talking about. It is DIFFERENT TYPE of memory, much faster and directly addressable which SD chips are not. SD chips are far slower memory and much less expensive than the memory chips soldered onto the logic boards of an iPhone.

Also, anyone who is planning to take 4K videos is not going to wimp out and buy a 16GB iPhone. These are people who think nothing of shelling out $2000 to $6000 for a big screen TV just to be able to watch the few 4K videos that are available. Right now the percentage of 4K big screen TVs in the wild is under 2%, if that. It's not a good argument to worry about.

A 16GB iPhone is also not the device for anyone who is planning to watch movies on their iPhone either. . . and never has been.

[Moonman62]

At least there is some warning about how Apple is trying to ripoff their customers. But most people aren’t going to see a couple of articles among all the hype.

http://fortune.com/2015/09/12/apple-16gb-iphone-ripoff/

[itsahoot]

None, still on the original battery.

It dawns on me that you may not have took my post as the sarcasm that it was for the benefit of the trolls that infest swordmaker's threads.

[Swordmaker]

Your response again does not take into account that anything created by man can be destroyed by man. Nothing is impervious or full proof. You take anything that Apple comes out with as the Almighty and nothing could possibly be against it. As I said before, just because someone hasn’t figured out how to breach the system doesn’t mean it can’t be done.

You have not said how anyone can get into it. Samsung's vaunted Knox security kept the keys in an unsecured, unencrypted Library outside of any secure area on their phones easily found by anyone looking for them. Apple does not do that. Your argument is basically "What if" and hold no water.

You really don't know what your talking about. 256 bit AES standard encryption IS impervious. Nobody can break the encryption. The only way to get in is to force the person who knows the key to give it to you, or brute force. I told you how long brute force will take to try every possible key. Are you going to torture the guy with the key? That's the other solution. Otherwise, it's mathematically unbreakable. If you think it is breakable, you also believe in the tooth fairy.

Somethings are impossible in the time available to do them. Some things are so good that everyone involved with it is convinced it is unbreachable. That is the situation with Apple Pay. PJ, if the data is NOT THERE, the thieves cannot get it. It really is that simple.

Early on, the bad guys did find a way by stealing credit cards and spoofing the credit card companies into allowing the thieves to provision an iPhone with a stolen credit cards. That happened because the BANKS themselves did not follow their own two factor protocol and call the card owner to assure they had the card and were indeed putting it on their OWN iPhone. Sheer stupidity on the CARD ISSUING BANK's part. That ended fast. . . didn't take too long for the banks to learn that they DID have to follow their own established protocols.

However, once it is properly vetted and approved, there is no way a crook can intercept and use it. . . except perhaps by pointing a gun at you and forcing you to do it, but that's not fraud. That's another crime.

[Swordmaker]

At least there is some warning about how Apple is trying to ripoff their customers. But most people aren’t going to see a couple of articles among all the hype.

I don't consider it a ripoff. I have already written a letter to Tim Cook suggesting the drop the 16GB in favor of a 32GB minimum iPhone size. It will still work for many people, but some will be disappointed.

New memory management systems in iOS handle the 16GB much better than in the past for iOS updates, which is where the problems used to come in the 16GB versions. . . and very few people are going to be taking 4K videos with a 16GB. . . but you CAN run out of memory if you take a hell of a lot of pictures and videos of junior and little sis especially if you don't sync them to a computer often enough and delete them from the phone. It will still hold a lot.

[PA Engineer]

Sheesh. Can’t you just stay off the Apple threads?

Ditto.

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Sometimes I’m dense that way...