Note: May not all be casualties
Posted on 09/18/2015 9:17:17 AM PDT by BenLurkin
Seven members of a group called the Valencia Hiking Crew were killed when flash floods hit Zion National Park in Utah earlier this week, the National Park Service revealed Thursday.
Sgt. Robert “Steve” Arthur and his wife Linda were with the group of canyoneers in Keyhole Canyon when a series of flash floods struck the region Monday, according to a news release from the Ventura County Sheriff's Office.
Steve Arthur's body was positively identified on Wednesday, the Sheriff's Office stated. His wife's body was found Thursday morning.
The bodies of five others who were killed in the storm were also recovered, according to an update on the National Park Service website.
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Michelle MacGilfrey, the assistant organizer for the Valencia Hiking Crew, posted a comment Thursday on the Zion National Park's Facebook page thanking the search and rescue teams for their efforts.
"We are a close-knit group and I know I speak for everyone by saying how much we appreciate all your hard efforts to find our friends and loved ones. These were incredible people and they will be deeply missed," the post read.
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Note: May not all be casualties
Interesting that they are shown in wet suits and helmets. They must have been seeking out this adventure.
They weren’t expecting the flash flood. Those can come from rain too far away for you to know about it.
Looks more like climbing gear.
Even when the ranger handed them their pass, he advised them not to go that day.
That’s news to me. LA radio had been saying that they were issued a permit that day as if there was no known risk.
Tragic.
Is it possible to get cell reception in that area in order to get weather alerts?
The slot canyons hold water.
I understand you can sometimes have flash flooding there, even when the rainfall is 100 miles away.
Nice gear for a bunch of tinhorns.
Six city bred, down town, Southern Californians killed in flash flood.
They were warned that there were flash flood conditions in those canyons and went anyway.
City boys and girls go out into the wild lands and get eaten, or killed some other way; no sympathy just Darwin in action.
I grew up in flash flood country; in spring and fall you always kept an eye on the weather, even in the mountains 30 or 40 miles away.
If a storm was coming in you always stuck to the high ground (stay out of canyons and arroyos), that water can be on you in a heartbeat and most times you don’t even hear it coming.
A few years ago my son and I watched 8 camper trucks and all the people in them get drowned in Red Rock Canyon (I had warned them earlier not to go in there), the weather higher up in the Sierras was brewing up to be a bad one, and about 8 pm it was.
The trucks, the tents, the people, all went down the canyon together with the mud, rocks, boulders and about 14 to 18 feet of water.
My son asked me if we were going to help them, I told him; at that point the only thing we could do would be to die with them.
We continued up the road to Indian Wells and called it in to the Highway Patrol and the Kern and Inyo county Sheriff Departments, it was all that we could do.
In the desert 40% chance is pretty high. Here in NM, I’ve seen it come down so hard you can’t see to drive and two miles away it’s sunny and dry.
So, to me, 40% means somebody is going to get pounded, and don’t stand in the arroyo even if you’re dry. In June a Scout was killed at the Philmont Ranch. A creek that was normally 2 feet wide and a foot deep flooded to 20 feet deep and 100 yards wide.
Moving water always wins.
Here’s what some rain in the foothills can do. That diversion channel is about 15 feet deep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPmw5NZ7K_0
Seems like every monsoon season we have some homeless guy riding a box spring down this thing that they have to try and rescue.
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