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Leak: This is HTC’s iPhone
BGR (Boy Genius Report) ^ | Oct 15, 2015 at 9:18 AM | By Zach Epstein

Posted on 10/17/2015 9:06:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Rural_Michigan

I have the passport too.

BB10 compared to Apple OS, the logic of user interaction, there is no comparison. It is simply elegant and mature.

Apple OS is a clunky game launcher.


41 posted on 10/20/2015 12:02:35 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER
Every year we hear about another hack into iPhones.

Please provide those "hacks" that are generally successful that do not require participation of the user or only work on a jailbroken iPhone. Frankly, I don't think you will find many. If they were there, someone will have claimed that $1 million prize. . . and it has not been claimed. Ergo, they don't exist.

Multiple tools exist to break into RIM and Blackberry devices and are in The Hacker Team's tool box while there are ZERO tools to break into any un-jailbroken iPhones or iPads, so your argument holds absolutely zero credibility. The Hacker Team is the company that provides all the tools to the NSA, FBI, CIA, MI6, Scotland Yard, and police departments all around the world to break into to mobile devices. It is their business model. . . so they do know what they are doing.

42 posted on 10/20/2015 4:35:44 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Wasn’t it like a year ago that iphone had an issue with Internet connections in public places? Maybe two years ago?

I think I Remember them showing the code that was defective. It was basic stuff. I remember reading the code.

I still think blackberry beats apple with security. They were encrypting and compressing data for many years. It’s built in in the hardware.

I was on an I phone today, comparing it to BB10. BB10 is so much easier to navigate, in a natural way. Yes, apple is hip, cool, and Rainbow approved. Every kid wants one. They take great pics. Steve Jobs is god.

But BB10 has was designed ground up to be a communication tool. Security and efficiency top priority. I use four or five things. Email, maps, voice commands, Web browser, BBM, text message, It does all of them, perfect. So navigating the system is the only difference I see between BB10 and Apple, and Apple is chaotic compared to BlackBerry. The most simple tasks are difficult to find or navigate. BlackBerry, it’s like it knows what your thinking when you navigate. Makes it so much easier.

Just for kicks, try one for a month.


43 posted on 10/21/2015 6:50:33 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Swordmaker

http://www.wired.com/2014/02/gotofail/

That’s the article on the encryption bug.

Apple was created by God. But God created bugs too.


44 posted on 10/21/2015 7:06:54 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER
That’s the article on the encryption bug.

You are aware that was in an early release of iOS 7 are you not? Apple fixed that and has moved on and the encryption we are discussing was not even in iOS 7. . . and the lock out was added in iOS 8. We are now on iOS 9, and between iOS 8 and 9, the adoption rate is over 93% of iOS users.

I reported on all this back on FreeRepublic in February of 2014 when the bug was current and topical. So, I ask you, what is your point??? Bugs get fixed. This one was easy to make by an idiot who was apparently testing something and neglected to remove it properly, and equally easy to fix once it was discovered to exist.

45 posted on 10/21/2015 7:19:06 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: dennisw

Battery life is also amazing with the passport.

I have music apps too, they work perfect.
Video calls on BBM, I use that.

Also, FM radio is built in. I start an app to use the fm tuner, no Internet required for radio.

BBM is awesome. I can see when messages are delivered, and then read.

So apps are not an issue for me. Operating system is. I want to cruise through tasks, app to app, with almost zero thinking. I want the phone to make it easy to do that.


46 posted on 10/21/2015 7:30:58 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Swordmaker

What’s my point?

Security.

Untested code in security. That’s Apple. That’s my point.

Add to that, phones and ipads turning into bricks after system upgrades. That’s toy stuff. My daughters iPad. One upgrade a few months after purchase, it was junk. Apple was good, they replaced that toy iPad for free.

Then add AlGore to the board of directors. Now “green” takes priority over rainbows and security comes last.


47 posted on 10/21/2015 7:48:36 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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But BB10 has was designed ground up to be a communication tool. Security and efficiency top priority. I use four or five things. Email, maps, voice commands, Web browser, BBM, text message, It does all of them, perfect. So navigating the system is the only difference I see between BB10 and Apple, and Apple is chaotic compared to BlackBerry. The most simple tasks are difficult to find or navigate. BlackBerry, it’s like it knows what your thinking when you navigate. Makes it so much easier.

That's hilarious! Any phone that requires a 116 page manual for the user to learn how to use it is not easier to use than one that does not even come with a manual. And no, the Blackberry was not designed from the "ground up to be a communications tool," it just growed over several years. The iPhone is incredibly intuitive to use as witness the fact that people from toddlers to old people in their nineties can learn to use it without being taught how. . . but YOU have trouble figuring it out???? Even more hilarious.

I repeat, the Blackberry can be beaten by every police department and DA in this country and every podunk country in the world with off-the-shelf tools purchased from The Hacker Team. You cannot do the same with an iPhone. . . but your opinion, you say, trumps that fact. I rest my case on facts, not opinion pulled out of your belly-button. . . or mine, but experts in the field who make their livings off of being right.

I still think blackberry beats apple with security. They were encrypting and compressing data for many years. It’s built in in the hardware.

No. PA-RIVER, Blackberry's encryption is not in the hardware, it's in their software. Only Apple actually has their security and encryption truly built into their hardware with Apple's patented Secure Enclave Processors built into the Apple A7, A8, A8X, and A9 line of processors. Blackberry, like all the other cellular phones, uses off-the-shelf processors without such hardware. Again, you demonstrate you don't know what you are talking about.

48 posted on 10/21/2015 8:06:35 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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Add to that, phones and ipads turning into bricks after system upgrades. That’s toy stuff. My daughters iPad. One upgrade a few months after purchase, it was junk. Apple was good, they replaced that toy iPad for free.

Anecdotes do not data make. . . There are over 350 MILLION iPads now in the wild none of which are not dead junk that belie your probably untrue anecdote, PA-RIVER. Your claimed "one dead iPad as the result of an update" out of 350 million is not indicative of a failed product line. . . it is just indicative of a delusionally biased reporter: YOU. You make delusional and biased claims about Apple security that flies in the face of all facts without evidence. . . and ignore authoritative evidence when presented. Delusional.

49 posted on 10/21/2015 8:13:58 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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You go to Japan and they all use Samsung and HTC tablets. iPads are a minor player. Japanese always get the latest and the greatest electronics. When they make a choice and are early adopters they always choose right!!

There is an electronics shopping district in Tokyo where they sell the latest everything and lots of these items never make it to America and Europe. iPads are a joke there. They sit on shelves gathering dust


50 posted on 10/22/2015 5:14:30 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Swordmaker

I installed the system upgrade on the iPad for my daughter. It was useless brick after the upgrade.

I drove 50 miles round trip, to replace it.

The system is goofy, and
Steve Jobs is god in the age of the rainbow nation.


51 posted on 10/22/2015 5:18:18 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Swordmaker

I think it’s the new Priv phone from BB. It has extra hardware for security.

Maybe it’s the Apple chips that make them so delicate to OS upgrades.

You lose all your data once they brick, or if you sit on them, they bend, short out and flame your butt and your data. :)

Funny, but true story:

I used to use passwords with a food name and a number.

For example, Bread1 or peach1.

I would increment the number on the password for each change.

Honest to God, the night before Jobs died, I set my password to apple1.

Next day I sign in with Apple1, Steve is dead.

Apple one was his first computer.


52 posted on 10/22/2015 6:07:03 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Swordmaker

I use all three, BB10, Android and IOS.

I’m just telling you my personal favorite is BB10. For me, it is simply more elegant and intuitive than the others.

I had an experience with an IPhone user. She watched me navigate around the phone, grabbing numbers, pictures, setting things, ... she kept saying “Wow!”.

Clunky navigation and methods do not get a “Wow!”.

Will she get a BlackBerry? No. Apple is cool, and she needs cool.


53 posted on 10/22/2015 6:32:03 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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