On YouTube or Internet. I just have to have late night radio. Hoagland is just so-so as far as I’m concerned. Just damn, it was great having Art back. Did hear the night when shots were fired outside his house and the crazy guy hiding outside his broadcast building on his property. Kinda scary in this day. And yes, Art said he is well armed.
Hoagland always came across to me as a complete fake.
I listen to Art for other reasons. He is a consummate interviewer, with a very organized and discriminating mind. You had to listen for awhile, to figure out whether he was taking the guest seriously, or politely tolerating him/her.
After awhile, you could tell.
-JT