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Why Kids Can't Read
American Thinker ^ | Nov. 25, 2015 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 12/12/2015 4:43:44 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice

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To: Menehune56

Doesn’t matter to Humdinger.

He is OCD on trying to bust people.

The Mods are getting very tired of him.


41 posted on 12/12/2015 9:20:50 PM PST by Jayster
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To: driftless2

Don’t disagree but you would have been better off with parents that read to you. It advances your critical thinking and ability to to communicate at an advanced level


42 posted on 12/12/2015 9:43:13 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: mumblypeg

I learned the same way you did, but somewhere along the way, the liberals decided that school needed to be “fun” and when I was in school it was serious work and not too much fun, but we were very well educated. There is no grammar taught today, no handwriting, very little spelling or sentence construction. It’s horrible.


43 posted on 12/12/2015 9:51:20 PM PST by dandiegirl (BO)
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To: Nifster
Don't disagree but you would have been better off with parents that read to you. It advances your critical thinking and ability to to communicate at an advanced level

Really? That's highly conjectural. Anyway, my parents reading to me wasn't going to happen. They weren't really much interested in what I or my other five siblings thought about anything or how or what we did in school.

I'm fairly certain that many millions of other children who learned to read without any help from their parents also learned to think critically and "communicate at an advanced level." I'm a little puzzled by the meaning of your last assertion.

Like I said, I agree.... it's great if parents read to their kids. But that doesn't doom a child to a life of not being able to think critically or "communicate at an advanced level."

44 posted on 12/13/2015 3:16:52 AM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: SAJ

You think hieroglyphics would be easier to learn?


45 posted on 12/13/2015 3:26:25 AM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: Slyfox
He wrote the article and it was posted on American Thinker.

Guess he should have posted it here instead.

He is doing us a favor by letting us know about the article.

He's doing himself a favor using FR's traffic to score some hits on his "article".

Do you need to be such an @$$?

I'm not the one using FR as a free advertising tool.

46 posted on 12/13/2015 4:13:46 AM PST by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: arthurus
Of course not. The idiocy here consists of attempting to teach an **alphabetic** language as if it **were** hieroglyphics, or, indeed, any ideographic language, by memorizing images instead of learning how the alphabetic units ("letters", if you like) combine and are used together to form sounds, and from them, words.

Alphabetic or ideographic: choose one, no mixing. Got it?

47 posted on 12/13/2015 6:35:38 AM PST by SAJ
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To: impimp

In your teaching of whole word have you ever run into a student that you eventually had to recommend to be remediated because of their lack of being able to get it?


48 posted on 12/13/2015 7:17:21 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: arthurus
SPED is the ugly stepchild of the Education system

When my oldest son was having difficulty in the fourth grade in all of his classes except math, I had to figure out what the problem was. That took me a couple of years but his main problem was he could not read words that were more than 7 words long.

He had to learn to read correctly. I tried to enter him in one of those after school remediation classes taught by the same people who had caused the damage in the first place. I instead decided to pay someone 200 bucks per month to train him correctly.

Then after he went through that 2 year program he still had a difficulty reading at a proper speed. A friend suggested I take him to a developmental optometrist who diagnosed another problem caused by the original word-guessing. After nearly another 2 years my son became a good reader.

There was one thing I noticed in looking at his old school work. He had this one paper where he had to guess what the word was so he looked at the word puzzle and had to move his eyes to figure out the missing letter. Sounds harmless doesn't it? But what he learned to do was to not read from left to right. When you read correctly you have to be able to read seamlessly from left to right.

It took 5 years to correct the bad whole word, look-say method that had been taught to my son.

49 posted on 12/13/2015 7:46:54 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: humblegunner
Why not post your whole piece? Is it stolen and you don’t wish to advertise your theft?

This makes no sense at all.

First of all, he could not post the whole thing because of the rules.

Secondly, he wrote the piece and did not steal it, he wrote it himself. And, he was kind enough to let us know that he had written it.

Why should this be a problem for you?

But, back to my original question - Why do you have to be such an @$$?

50 posted on 12/13/2015 7:52:14 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: Menehune56; BruceDeitrickPrice

The poster is the author! What’s he gonna do, sue himself?

What he’s doing is trolling for clicks, on our dime. Pretty scummy.


51 posted on 12/13/2015 7:54:32 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Slyfox; humblegunner
Why not post your whole piece?
Is it stolen and you don't wish to advertise your theft?
Do you need to be such an @$$?

AMEN. What is it with this guy? First "blog-pimps" and now this.

52 posted on 12/13/2015 8:15:44 AM PST by Oatka (ES)
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To: driftless2

Try a giggle search

Here is just one of many articles

https://www.earlymoments.com/promoting-literacy-and-a-love-of-reading/why-reading-to-children-is-important/


53 posted on 12/13/2015 4:11:49 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Teachers can’t read (or write). How can we expect better from their students?


54 posted on 12/13/2015 4:18:36 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Slyfox

Yes. But I really focus on teaching children at an extremely young age. When the whole word effort is put in at a young age (1,2,3 years old) then best results are achieved. If a child knows nothing at the age of 5 (like many people in public school) then perhaps phonetics is best.


55 posted on 12/14/2015 12:07:25 PM PST by impimp
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To: impimp
My daughter is teaching her 3 to 5 year-olds phonics-only with letter recognition, word practice involving exchanging vowels in a word sequence and them listening to her read. Her 7 year-old is reading way past his age range.

Most kids can learn whole-word easily, however there are some kids who have a real problem learning that way. So, to prevent those students from falling through the cracks it is really best to begin with letter and sound recognition first then whole-word does not become a problem at all.

To err on the side of caution it is best to begin with phonics first.

56 posted on 12/14/2015 12:18:06 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: Slyfox

I am OK with some kids falling through the cracks with my method, as long as it allows others to be reading novels at the age of 5. I am not a public school teacher and so I refuse to care twice as much about the worst reader/learner as I care about the best reader/learner.


57 posted on 12/15/2015 5:47:19 AM PST by impimp
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To: impimp; BruceDeitrickPrice
I am OK with some kids falling through the cracks with my method, as long as it allows others to be reading novels at the age of 5. I am not a public school teacher and so I refuse to care twice as much about the worst reader/learner as I care about the best reader/learner.

Then you would be the teacher in my child's classroom who is known as a very unhelpful teacher. I would warn other parents about you.

I had two boys who if I had not stepped in and pulled them out of school and taught them myself, they would have be in a world of hurt today unable to read well enough to get on with their life.

Most kids are easy to teach. But it takes a dedicated effort to reach those who need just the right help to see their way through their beginning steps.

You would make a lousy and lazy teacher because as you say you would be OK with some kids falling through the cracks.

You have identified the root problem of education today.

58 posted on 12/15/2015 7:44:08 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: Larry Lucido

RE: “trolling for clicks”

None of the writers on American Thinker are paid. Clicks for individual writers are not tabulated in any way, at least not in any way that the authors can find out.

American Thinker is a very popular and prestigious site. If I place an article there, I can reach a larger audience for my perspective on education. That is how I get paid.

Free Republic requires that articles be placed somewhere else first.

Furthermore, Free Republic and American Thinker have an agreement. Articles have to be excerpted.


59 posted on 12/15/2015 12:21:09 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: Ouderkirk
The schools a re a giant vaginocracy where the gynocrats run roughshod over solid learning.

Replace "learning" with "work", and you have an apt description of the federal government.

Since my regional director and her deputy are sooo busy, instead of taking a couple of hours each week to visit offices, they announced a plan where they will periodically call a worker "to see how things are going."

It reminded me of a Group Commander I served with in Germany. He usually hit the road on Friday afternoons to pay unannounced visits to one of twelve ADA batteries under his command.

Everyone went bat$hit crazy, all the way up to battalion hq. Didn't bother me a bit, I was usually the only officer at the tac park/motor pool on Friday afternoons. Gave me a chance to get some "quality time" with the Colonel...lol.

Deputy Commanding General would pop in with his helicopter from time to time. He saved my bacon with his last visit, a quick stop on the way to a nearby Nike Hercules battery that had just completed a nuclear surety inspection.

I had gotten into it with the Team Chief, as I led an augmentation force put into service in case the other battery was attacked by terrorists or other bad guys. I had 4 hours to make mission time, did it in 3 1/2 hours, and the team chief gave me $hit for taking so long. It was my 5th or 6th go round, and he just pi$$ed me off. I was respectful, but I stood my ground with that LTC. I took the time to give them extra training, as my guys hadn't had infantry tactics since boot camp. I'll be damned if I was going to look like F troop in an area with nuclear weapons, with all of my 40 soldiers carrying live ammo.

During the outbriefing, that was the only critical comment made. My buddies in the other unit were cracking up. After the team leaves, the Deputy CG goes up to the podium, looks directly at me: "Lieutenant, I'll take that hit for you. Anytime you want to give your men extra training, you have my permission."

Now I work for overpaid civilians that don't know jack about leadership. To a certain extent, I'm like that commercial with Troy Aikman, i.e. I live in the past. Thankfully, I have a 13 YO son and 5 YO grandson that keep me looking to the future.

60 posted on 12/15/2015 12:46:28 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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