Posted on 01/14/2016 5:53:06 AM PST by dayglored
I quit updates months ago due to this trojan horse type thing. I’ve had no problems. My only concern is that outfits like McAfee keep supporting W7 with antivirus software. I’ve found W7 to be the most stable OS I’ve ever used, once it has been configured to look and work just like XP, it’s actually better than XP.
Let’s assume W10 had no issues at all. Why, just why would someone want to upgrade if their W7 system worked to perfection and gave complete satisfaction?
Catnipman presented a way to stop the “nagging” and to remove what may already had been installed. Check the link for info.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3381104/posts?page=21#21
“Oh, this will get interesting... “
I’m just waiting for the class action lawsuit ...
These pop ups are really screwing up things for a blind friend of mine.
NAGWARE is the perfect description. Some may use the term
ZOMBIEWARE, you thought for sure you had uninstalled everything connected to an undesired program, only to have it resurface days, weeks later, like that doll Chucky who could not be destroyed.
This will not affect large corporations. This is intended for small businesses using Windows Update over the Internet. If you’re using WSUS or SCCM, you don’t get this garbage.
Honestly, if you’re a Windows admin worth your salt, you should, at a minimum, run WSUS. It’s a built-in role on the Server platform, and setup is wizard-driven.
This is, again, much ado about nothing, but I will say that our MS TAM is VERY persistent about our plans for migration to Win10. We’re still on Win7, by and large.
I think they're taking this tack:
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say: If you're using WSUS or SCCM, you have the opportunity to stop this garbage in one place rather than chase it down in every user's computer?
That is, you can filter out selected updates in WSUS, but you still have to configure it to do so -- it's not like simply having the WSUS makes them magically go away.
Right?
That kind of flies in the face of the assertions that they're collecting massive amounts of information from everyone using Windows 10. If one person can prove they did it, they should be open to a massive class action suit and a discovery process that would be crippling.
If I understand correctly, once you upgrade, you will be forced to accept their updates. This means that an OS upgrade could break your setup, cause things not work, and you'd have no recourse.
Apple is going the same way. I'm daily nagged to upgrade my iPhone to 9.2. Not only the nearly 400MB upgrade is downloaded without my permission waiting for me to approve the install. This ties up half of my available memory.
My assumption (this is open to argument of course) is that HIPAA/PCI data is stored, not on end-users' desktops, but in databases or fileservers that are not the subject of these "telemetry" transmissions. The desktop may access that information through an application, but I would hope that most applications are written to avoid writing that data to uncontrolled storage like a desktop drive, except perhaps in swap or hiber files, which presumably aren't part of the "telemetry".
> If one person can prove they did it, they should be open to a massive class action suit and a discovery process that would be crippling.
I'll bet Microsoft thought it through and decided it's worth the risk.
And if, perchance, they have NOT thought it through, then yes, they deserve everything that gets thrown at them, for business stupidity, if not for snooping.
Then what data are they capturing that's causing all this angst about privacy violations?
Skynet for PC users. Once enough people upgrade to Windows 10, the war to extinguish humanity will begin, as foretold by Sarah Connor.
Did see the dreaded KB nag "update" sitting in the "critical" update queue, but since I have no intention of downloading any further updates from MS, no problem.
Your sister’s printers might work in Linux. HP printers seem to be very compatible with Linux. Since hers are two years old, someone likely has written the Linux drivers for them.
You can also look those models up for Linux compatibility:
http://www.openprinting.org/printers
No, those KBs were not distributed through the WSUS channel. I just double-checked my home lab and don’t have any of the Windows 10 updates in the subscription repo. Also, WSUS defaults to only installing critical and security patches. Most “important” updates are left for me to approve, and I usually go through them once every 3 months or so.
The default behavior of WSUS and SCCM is to only install critical and security updates. Until Microsoft makes the Win10 nag updates “critical,” it’ll never get pushed down in a corporate environment. And in my experience, MS TAMs notify their EA customers well in advance of anything like that. Hell, our TAM practically pollutes our inboxes with notices.
They are being pushed by nsa/dhs to do whatever it taked to get this onto as many pcs as possible,
No question fedgov is behind this.
Look at how they have forced this onto people and changed rules along the way. Saying they would not do things only to later do them.
10 has disabled and erased valid programs from folks’ computers pre-emptively.
They will wind up holding millions of peoples systems hostage to pay for future upgrades, or keep current stuff working. You cant turn off their updates and 10 will turn into ransomware.
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