Posted on 01/16/2016 8:06:02 AM PST by conservativejoy
Everyone has boundaries around their bodies, so how about during childbirth the area around the mother’s body should be declared a temporary territory of her citizenship land so that she can naturally pass her citizenship on to her child no matter where she chooses to give birth. This would give every child born the current citizenship of their mother, therefore ending anchoring the child’s citizenship to a country which the mother is not a citizen, unless the father is a citizen of a different country then the mother, then the child has dual citizenship and when the child is of age 18 or 21, the child must declare one citizenship over another just like naturalized citizens do, they give up one citizenship for another. It seems very unnatural for a child not to be a citizen of his or her parents’ homeland(s). It doesn’t seem right that a nation could take away a child’s citizenship because the child was born there to parent(s) who are not citizens. Somewhere I read an old time statement that “A kitten born in the warming pan is not a biscuit, it’s a cat like its mother and its father.”
And your point is?
Was I not clear enough in my satire?
The statue from 1790 is pretty clear. You do not have to be a Philadelphia lawyer to understand it. Both parents have to be citizens when running for President or the VP slot. Trump is correct in that Cruz needs to get this settled.
Good observation.
The Act also establishes the United States citizenship of certain children of citizens, born abroad, without the need for naturalization: “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens”.
Sounds to me like that his mother’s citizenship made him a citizen at birth, or natural born citizen.
That is all fine and dandy but at the time of his birth Ted’s father was not a U.S. Citizen. Again the statue of 1790 says citizens, not citizen. Again we are talking about running for the President and the Vice President, not getting things like passports. This is why Ted needs to get this thing straightened out.
I know you support the Constitution like we all do but when it comes to the 1790 statue you appear to get weak in the knees.
I'm going to post you a private message about what a very famous supreme court ruling said. You will not like what they said. You need to be AWARE of what they said so you will quit stirring this pot.
It's d@mn frustrating to see you say these things and knowing how to rebut them, but not wanting to do so for fear of giving information to the enemy, so every time I see one of your postings pushing this line, I have to bite my tongue, and that is a very unnatural and unpleasant condition for me.
Stop stirring this pot.
Not clear at all when you jump to Catholics and Jews.
1. I believe the word you are looking for is statute, not statue.
2. The 1790 statue may be interesting, but the one in effect at the time Cruz was born is more relevant.
And then I did it too. Nice.
The “natural born” concept needs a little refinement due to changing technology. A child having the misfortune to be born on the International Space Station is a natural born citizen of nowhere.
Which one is that?
TITLE III NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION
CHAPTER 1 NATIONALITY AT BIRTH AND BY COLLECTIVE NATURALIZATION
NATIONALS AND CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AT BIRTH
SEC. 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(1) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
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(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years...
My notes:
1. There is no difference in status at birth between paragraph (1) and (7)
2. I have heard several people advancing a theory that those born outside the US are "naturalized at birth," but the definitions in this statute put a monkey wrench in that:
TITLE I GENERAL
DEFINITIONS
SECTION 101. (a) As used in this Act-
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(23) The term "naturalization" means the conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth, by any means whatsoever.
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