Posted on 01/30/2016 4:42:05 AM PST by Nextrush
This whole affair is one of the strangest situations I’ve come across in years.
LaVoy should have immediately left his gun in the vehicle before exiting. The second he reached for his pocket, he knows he's going to be shot. If he is shot and were unarmed, the nation would have been in a rage. Poor thinking on his part.
Not worth the paper they are written on
Promise of safe conduct: "Our boss, Obama, says if 'you like your life you can keep your life.' What more could anyone ask?"
“Safe conduct” does not mean “immunity from prosecution.”
A bunch of peaceful ranchers, pushed to their limits by a grasping federal agency, peacefully protest by occupying a vacant outbuilding, not blocking anyone, and the full force of the Federal government with the active collusion of a Democrat governor, a racist Attorney General and a Marxist racist President, treat them like violent criminals. The actions of the Federal Government are extreme, excessive, racist and unconstitutional. No similar action was taken against the rioters in Baltimore who were black, or the radical leftists who seized Wall Street.
Thank you for the update.
Thanks for that summary; I haven’t been able to find one before.
They did seem to want to be ‘pardoned’ as the media reported implying to me they did not want to be charged if they left refuge. I’m sorry I didn’t write it that way.
BTTT
I trust most FBI agents in most situations. As for the ones at an ambush after a promise of safe passage, I find trust difficult. I imagine LaVoy felt the same. He may have believed (perhaps correctly) that, armed or not, they would find his gun in his pocket/holster/waistband after shooting him. He may even have followed your advice, and they still found guns on him.
It is not clear to me from the video whether LaVoy was reaching for a gun/pocket, steadying himself on uneven snow, or actually shot before the movement that is claimed to have provoked the shooting and reaching for where he was hit. What is clear is that they were prepared to kill at least one of the people promised "safe passage", to make sure that decent people get the message - Obama's minions will not tolerate anything less than worshipful obedience.
Intentional act on his part, IMO.
Now, in some eyes, he is a martyr.
A well organized militia (the constitutional military) has preference over statute thugs. Why do statute thugs get to dictate to a constitutional military? Everything is backwards. Pardon from statute thugs???????
I am not an advocate for violent resistance, but any resistance, even non violent has often descended into the violent kind and that definitely includes the Civil Rights situation.
When the pictures and films of Bull Connor’s dogs and water cannon in action were spread around, many white people were ashamed and black people were enraged into seeing any police action against them in all parts of the country as the equivalent of Connor’s actions leading to riots in cities everywhere in the end.
Timing can be right if circumstances are planned, perhaps there’s some sort of unplanned circumstance going on.
I want peace but I have no control over what others choose to do or how events unfold in the days ahead.
He apparently was shot by an agent in his left side while his hands were raised up. He grabbed his left side to reduce the pain. He was then shot in the right shoulder by a second agent. Finicum staggered and then was shot from his rear and killed by a third agent. Go to YouTube then search for LaVoy Finicum to see the video evidence. This violent confrontation could have been avoided if the FBI would have been more patient with the protesters.
I especially like how the maker of the video includes Lavoys words during the encounter.
Apparently the enhanced zoom tool also includes a dialog maker upper module.
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