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9/11 Truthers Are Even Dumber Than You Think
Daily Caller ^ | 9/11/2014 | Jim Antle

Posted on 02/15/2016 5:36:10 PM PST by jessduntno

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To: jessduntno

Not my theory nor do I subscribe to it. I just don’t take most things the Federal Government says at face value. Used to, not anymore.


21 posted on 02/15/2016 6:26:32 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Uncle Sham

When a bat hits a ball it is called impulse, no high rise building is designed to take an impulse like a jumbo jet flying smack dab into it. If you look at the photos of the building being hit by the jet you can actually see the building bend at the impact. The impact damaged some of the major load bearing members, and the fire did the rest. Jet fuel is not gasoline at the pump. Standard jet fuel has an octane rating of 100, and can burn at up to 1500 degrees Fahrenheit. Steel loses about 50% of its strength at just 550 degrees Fahrenheit. The combination of the impulse, and the fire caused a load failure and the floors began to pancake.


22 posted on 02/15/2016 6:31:24 PM PST by Do the math (Doug)
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To: jessduntno

If you want to read something that may change your mind about 9/11, or at least give you serious doubts about the official story, read Rebekah Roth’s “Methodical Illusion” and “Methodical Deception”.

She was a 30 year flight attendant and later a pursor on international flights (Sr Flight Attendant). She retired shortly after 9/11 and spent over a year looking into details that the media missed. Read the book, then tell me “truthers” are wrong.

http://www.amazon.com/Methodical-Illusion-Rebekah-Roth/dp/0982757131/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1455590032&sr=8-3&keywords=rebekah+roth


23 posted on 02/15/2016 6:34:00 PM PST by Vic S
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To: jessduntno
Unless you could demonstrate how an awful lot of people could be involved in such an elaborate scam for so long

Most conspiracy theories fail simply because the people and logistics needed to pull off the conspiracies are well nigh impossible to achieve.

But of course, the conspiracists reason backwards....they know the Bush admin was evil and was looking for an excuse to start a war in the middle east, so they must have been in cahoots with the terrorists. Then they figure out how.

Antle is right...these people want to believe the worst. No amount of facts and logic will dissuade them.

24 posted on 02/15/2016 6:39:21 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: Vic S
She was a 30 year flight attendant

Well, by Gawd she must be an expert on explosives, tensile strength of steel, engineering, physics, and whole lot of other things concerning skyscrapers and what would make them fall. /s

25 posted on 02/15/2016 6:41:48 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: driftless2

It may not have been an inside job, per se, but people at the highest levels of our government knew it was going down and did nothing to stop it. So call it a de facto inside job. The government is owned and operated by criminals. There is no lie they will not tell, and no crime they will not commit.


26 posted on 02/15/2016 6:55:06 PM PST by huckfillary
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To: huckfillary

So then....

“Trump, as he has done multiple times throughout this presidential race, invoked the Iraq War as a way to criticize Jeb Bush for his brother’s actions. “The World Trade Center came down during your brother’s reign, remember that,” Trump told Jeb, eliciting boos from the audience. Then regarding former president Bush starting the unpopular Iraq war, he said, “They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction and there were none. And they knew there were none.” - Donald Trump

The Washington Post reports that in a 2008 interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, Trump said that Nancy Pelosi, who was Speaker of the House at the time, should have pushed for Bush’s impeachment because of his management of the Iraq war. When asked why, Trump replied, for “[getting] us into the war with lies,” a sentiment he repeated on Saturday night. However, the next morning during an appearance on ABC’s This Week, he said, “I don’t even think about it.” - Donald Trump

Though he previously depicted Bush’s actions as deliberate, on Sunday morning he distanced himself from those statements. On NBC’s Meet the Press, Trump backed away from his past impeachment calls, saying, “It may not have been impeachable because it was a mistake.” - Donald “Tell it like it is” Trump

Does any of the above apply? Is that why so many people are enthusiastic about the donald? He believes the top didn’t do anything either...well, until he got the sober up the next morning...or something.


27 posted on 02/15/2016 6:58:06 PM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: Vic S

When Ted Gunderson, the former head of the FBI, says that he was wrong in saying that 9/11 was an inside job, then I might change how I feel. He ought to have a pretty good idea as to just what was happening in DC and NYC.


28 posted on 02/15/2016 8:32:31 PM PST by B4Ranch (https://www.22kill.com/)
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To: driftless2

She doesn’t look at the destruction of the towers. Only looks at the transcripts of the flight attendants and the behavior of the passengers. She even got the radar data for that day. She doesn’t really investigate anything about the buidings. Which is why her analysis is so interesting.

Read the book before you start making jokes. Or listen to an interview with her on youtube (caravan to midnight is one, hagmann is another.)


29 posted on 02/15/2016 8:40:52 PM PST by Vic S
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Building 7 - 47 story skyscraper - that was home to all the alphabet security agencies fell because parts of the neighboring towers fell on it. Then fell at free fall speeds. Funny as it was announced live on the news that it collapsed while it could still be seen standing in the background on 9/11. Ridicule and mocking and ad hominum attacks are definitely preferable to reason.


30 posted on 02/15/2016 8:43:40 PM PST by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: huckfillary
It may not have been an inside job, per se, but people at the highest levels of our government knew it was going down and did nothing to stop it. So call it a de facto inside job.

Utter bullsh*t. Put up or shut up.

31 posted on 02/16/2016 2:32:57 AM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: jessduntno

I guess you can’t answer the question. Is that it?


32 posted on 02/16/2016 4:01:13 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham

There was a question?


33 posted on 02/16/2016 4:04:50 PM PST by jessduntno (Steady, Reliable, and (for now) Republican - Donald Trump (D, R, I, D, R, I, R - NEW YORK))
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To: jessduntno
"9/11 Truthers Are Even Dumber Than You Think"

No they aren't.

34 posted on 02/16/2016 4:05:35 PM PST by mlo
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To: Ultima
"Truthers are nutty."

Yes they are.

"Governments never lie to their citizens about anything. Especially about major incidents that lead to military action."

That fact that governments sometimes lie in no way validates any nutty conspiracy theory you want to believe in.

35 posted on 02/16/2016 4:07:09 PM PST by mlo
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To: Do the math

I don’t trust your figures as they pertain to the strength of steel under heat. My oven doesn’t have any problems remaining strong at 600 degrees and steel columns on a skyscraper are much sturdier than my oven. Why the bullshit?


36 posted on 02/16/2016 4:07:54 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: jessduntno

Jamie Gorlick memo. Done.


37 posted on 02/16/2016 4:08:00 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Do the math

Oh.

Here you go

When a bat hits a ball it is called impulse, no high rise building is designed to take an impulse like a jumbo jet flying smack dab into it. If you look at the photos of the building being hit by the jet you can actually see the building bend at the impact. The impact damaged some of the major load bearing members, and the fire did the rest. Jet fuel is not gasoline at the pump. Standard jet fuel has an octane rating of 100, and can burn at up to 1500 degrees Fahrenheit. Steel loses about 50% of its strength at just 550 degrees Fahrenheit. The combination of the impulse, and the fire caused a load failure and the floors began to pancake.

Postedd by Do the Math Doug right before I saw your drivel. Didn’t think it was necessary to anser. I just would have said “are you shitting me? These jets were FULL of fuel.” His naswer is more complete. I guess that was pretty much such a dumb ass question, you were joking, too.


38 posted on 02/16/2016 4:09:14 PM PST by jessduntno (Steady, Reliable, and (for now) Republican - Donald Trump (D, R, I, D, R, I, R - NEW YORK))
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To: mlo

Are so!


39 posted on 02/16/2016 4:10:14 PM PST by jessduntno (Steady, Reliable, and (for now) Republican - Donald Trump (D, R, I, D, R, I, R - NEW YORK))
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To: jessduntno

Yes, there was. Why did building seven come down? It was not struck by either of the planes.


40 posted on 02/16/2016 4:11:22 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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