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Is it time for a Trump-Cruz alliance? (vanity)

Posted on 02/23/2016 11:11:12 AM PST by Leaning Right

By alliance I mean a joint announcement that Trump and Cruz are now running as a team, or perhaps a joint announcement committing Trump to pick Cruz as a Supreme Court justice.

I bring this up because the elites are starting to coalesce around Rubio (aka Romney II). And as we all know, nominating Romney II will just get us Clinton II.


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To: Leaning Right

Cruz will probably be needed in the Senate when it comes time to impeach Hillary or Trump.


81 posted on 02/23/2016 1:10:55 PM PST by FreedomForce
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To: 11th Commandment
Yeah, there is absolutely no good reason for Trump to keep insulting Cruz, and every reason for him to lay the hell off now.

The last thing he should want is a one to one fight with a consolidated GOPe and their single candidate supported by the MSM.

Perhaps he's not the strategic genius some think he is.

82 posted on 02/23/2016 1:13:39 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter
Perhaps he's not the strategic genius some think he is.

I think the GOPe played Trump and got him to burn a bridge with Cruz. I have no solid evidence, but overtly establishment types like Dole made overtures to Trump over Cruz. Then there is Rubio attacking Cruz as not liked and a lyer just LIKE TRUMP (HMMM, also the GOPe line).

So now the Trump/Cruz ticket is gone, the path for Trump to exceed 50% and the GOPe is consolidating around Rubio. There is enough Kasich, Rubio and Bush people to overtake Trump in a plurality. Cruz is so pissed he will stay in to spite Trump. Hell I am so mad at Trump supporters I'd take Rubio over Trump.

83 posted on 02/23/2016 1:31:46 PM PST by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: prisoner6

I think the bridges have been burned. Too bad.


Yep, just cue up the song by the Mike Curb Congregation.


84 posted on 02/23/2016 1:44:04 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Mollypitcher1

screw him then, don’t try to build bridges with us Cruz supporters and you Trumpsters aren’t helping the cause.


85 posted on 02/23/2016 1:50:34 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: Mase
If Trump picks Kasich, he will lose me and all the people who put him in the position he is in. He will become no better than Romney.

Trump is already the guy who has moderate tendencies together with a few conservative positions. He has the moderates who hate the establishment locked up. He needs to assuage the conservatives who are still skeptical. If he and Cruz can't kiss and make up, he needs to look to Sessions or someone like that. He also should absolutely let Cruz know he has a spot on the SC if he wants it. If they're not campaigning on the same ticket, at least they should be on the same team--the anti-establishment team.

I don't think Trump is stupid enough to pick Kasich.

86 posted on 02/23/2016 2:03:27 PM PST by Defiant (RINOs are leaders of a party without voters. Trump/Cruz are leaders of voters without a party.)
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To: JSDude1

My reading of the constitution and Vattel’s Law of Nations as well as the numerous findings of the supreme court and George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, John Jay, Madison,David Ramsey, etc. etc. etc. convinces me that Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are NOT eligible to run for the presidency. I will NOT support anyone who is not eligible to run. Either we support the constitution or we do not. There are no second choices.


87 posted on 02/23/2016 2:06:45 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: RavenLooneyToon

Why should Trump choose a flawed ineligible liar? No reason i can think of.


88 posted on 02/23/2016 2:08:28 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Because it was agreed to back in October, silly!


89 posted on 02/23/2016 2:17:35 PM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Trump or Cruz, if you don't vote then STFU and leave the country, non-voters =non-Republic.)
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To: Leaning Right

I’m afraid Cruz has blown that chance. He rolled the dice on putting up a false face and a back-handed strategy towards the frontrunner and it isn’t working out. Better luck in 2020.


90 posted on 02/23/2016 2:18:31 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Defiant

I hope (if Trump wins) he picks a rock ribbed conservative like Cruz as his VP. However, as I am reminded here daily, Trump is the only conservative in the race. I believe the Trump supporters believe that, and I’m afraid that Trump himself believes it. Who else are conservatives going to vote for? Hillary?

The establishment is against him. No better way to change that than to appease them with the VP slot. Kasich can deliver Ohio. No Republican has ever won without Ohio. Hope I’m wrong and you’re right. But Trump is a pragmatist, not a conservative. He will do or say anything to get elected.


91 posted on 02/23/2016 2:20:23 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: RavenLooneyToon

Ah, before Cruz got his knife out and attacked Trump.


92 posted on 02/23/2016 2:21:38 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Leaning Right
There was one. Did you sleep through it?

By now the two guys can hardly stand each other, so it won't happen.

If Trump's the nominee, picking Cruz as running mate would only lose him votes.

Here's the rub, though: if you like Trump because you hate people like Rubio and Kasich, what happens when he picks Rubio or Kasich or somebody like them as a running mate (like Reagan picked Bush)?

93 posted on 02/23/2016 2:25:49 PM PST by x
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To: Mollypitcher1

Funny that Cruz is eligible per most legal scholars, though.. Only the Trump supporters keep brining this issue up.


94 posted on 02/23/2016 2:31:44 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: Mase
He will do or say anything to get elected.

I disagree. If he felt that way, he'd have run as a Democrat, and won. How easy would that be? The MSM would love him, Hillary would be yesterday's news. The easiest thing to do in this life is to go along with the liberals. And that is what he has done his whole life, because he is a businessman, a personality. But he didn't. He wanted to run as a Republican, a Republican who could not be bought. His first position was immigration. Then tax reform. Then Muslims. Trade. He speaks passionately about those issues. He believes what he is saying.

He wants to win, but he wants to win as himself. Not as some phony, poll tested lying politician. That's for Bush and Kasich to do. And Rubio. He's worth billions, why would he go through this effort to be president just to pick a side he doesn't agree with?

Think, man.

95 posted on 02/23/2016 2:38:25 PM PST by Defiant (RINOs are leaders of a party without voters. Trump/Cruz are leaders of voters without a party.)
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To: JSDude1

“Most legal scholars” is an overstatement. Rather like 98% of Scientists agree on Global warming. Funny how up until rather recently, no one questioned the constitution on natural Born Citizen. it was adhered to without question. Now, attacks on the first amendment, second amendment ad infinmitum are brushed off. Article II, Section 1, clause 5 cannot be changed by political fiddling. it must go through a very long process. The Original Intent stands until it is changed. Cruz is NOT born of two citizen parents and not born on the soil.


96 posted on 02/23/2016 2:40:18 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Defiant
He speaks passionately about those issues. He believes what he is saying.

I believe he is passionate about those issues. I just wish he'd do a better job of remembering what it is he believes. Then he wouldn't have to continuously go to Twitter to explain, again, what it is he really believes. He's a political chameleon by necessity, but it is hard, as a conservative, to support a guy that has no guiding principles beyond what is best for his business.

He's worth billions, why would he go through this effort to be president just to pick a side he doesn't agree with?

Michael Bloomberg could probably answer that question better than both of us. I'll support Trump in the general, but not when there is a conservative in the race who not only talks the talk, but walks the walk.

Think, man.

Spare me.

97 posted on 02/23/2016 4:45:59 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
Bloomberg ran as a Republican, but he never said anything conservative.

If Trump were not in the race, we would all be so depressed right now. The writing would be on the wall for Cruz, and we would be arguing about Rubio vs. Kasich, or sitting it out.

98 posted on 02/23/2016 4:49:29 PM PST by Defiant (RINOs are leaders of a party without voters. Trump/Cruz are leaders of voters without a party.)
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To: Defiant
Your crystal ball must work better than mine. Knowing what would have happened if A, B or C, had occured is quite the talent.

Bloomberg's political past isn't all that much different than Trump's, and past is prologue. The only difference is that Trump, all of a sudden, has decided he's a conservative, and if he says it often enough, millions of people will buy what he's selling. He is one very skilled salesman. McCain, Mittens and Dole all presented themselves as conservative in the primaries. And like the good sheep we can be, many of us believed what we were being told.

Here we go again....

99 posted on 02/23/2016 5:02:45 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Respectfully disagree with you, along with A LOT of other people!


100 posted on 02/23/2016 5:35:56 PM PST by JSDude1
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