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Conservative Purists Are Capitulating With Support of Trump
Townhall.com ^ | March 9, 2016 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 03/09/2016 5:58:07 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 03/09/2016 5:58:07 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Whatever a “conservative purist” is I don’t want to be. I’m more conservative than Goldberg and I’ve done more for conservatism than he has.


2 posted on 03/09/2016 6:00:45 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Kaslin

Whatever a “conservative purist” is I don’t want to be. I’m more conservative than Goldberg and I’ve done more for conservatism than he has.


3 posted on 03/09/2016 6:00:45 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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Speaking as a “purist” conservative who has been supporting Cruz, the thing I like about Trump is he is shaking the corrupt foundations of the lying snakes in the GOPe. At this point I still prefer Cruz but I’m no dummy, he’s not getting the nod. So I will happily support Trump and hope he does half of what he brags about, secure in the knowledge that at the very least he has really upset the GOP apple cart which badly needs to be done.


4 posted on 03/09/2016 6:02:14 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Politics: from the greek "poly" [many] and the english "ticks" [blood sucking parasites])
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To: Kaslin

Jonah seems to opt for losing so often his ideals become ever more far fetched. Giving the Socialists the country and winning every 35 years is too infrequent.


5 posted on 03/09/2016 6:03:29 AM PST by major-pelham
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To: Kaslin

Maybe JG it is because grownups recognize Politics is a conflation of interests why “remforocons” thinks purity uber alles is a “winning” strategy.

Sorry “Remoforcons” your “lose with honor” notions are the same notions that cause a child to throw a temper tantrum when they do not get their way. You are losing the debate and rather then accept that, like a grownups, you are throwing a childish temperamental. That might work in publishing, it is politically suicidal

There is no principal at work in the “reformocons” other then a bull head determination that ONLY their notions counts and any other solution is “heresy”.


6 posted on 03/09/2016 6:04:03 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Kaslin

Why so many different definitions of Conservatism? This does nothing more than divide us into groups and water us down.


7 posted on 03/09/2016 6:04:55 AM PST by Durbin
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To: Kaslin

The two main factions of Conservatism:

Neoconservatism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

Paleoconservatism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism

Which one are you?


8 posted on 03/09/2016 6:05:37 AM PST by VitacoreVision
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The irony is that reform conservatives almost uniformly oppose Trump's populist deformation of conservatism, and the former purists are now calling for unity behind the Mother of all Capitulations, rationalized by Trump's promise to win, conservatism be damned.

I dont know that it is irony that conservatives are thinking "conservatism be damned", I think it is that we would rather have Trump over Hillary.

9 posted on 03/09/2016 6:06:37 AM PST by GregoTX
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To: Kaslin

Wow, did Goldberg miss the mark on that one! That is the problem with so called conservatives who do not understand how the world works and that to make change in a conservative way will require sometimes using means to get there...like free trade...we have no free trade right now, to pretend that we do is blind. We have stupid trade, we give the other nations everything to beat our own American businesses with. To get to free trade we need to negotiate trade deals to actually reflect fee trade.

People who support Trump are from across the spectrum demographically...it is a broad based movement that has much more strength as conservative ideology that will actually get implemented, that is why we support Trump. We believe him and his ability to actually succeed.


10 posted on 03/09/2016 6:07:41 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Durbin

Maybe because when everyone from Jeb Bush to Ted Cruz to John Karisch claim to be “the real Conservative” the word has been so bastardized it has lost all meaning.

Tht the problem for the Conservative Establishment like NR, Town Hall, Et All, they have no idea what the word “conservative” means anymore. Apprent “Conservative” is now any “GOPE approved politician”

Explain how CPAC give a standing ovation to “Conservative Hero” Paul Ryan who basically wrote Obama a blank check on the taxpayers for the last year of his Presidency?


11 posted on 03/09/2016 6:09:49 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Bingo!


12 posted on 03/09/2016 6:10:48 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Kaslin
I believe Larry Kudlow’s change of heart regarding border control is unrelated to the rise of Trump. Kudlow now sees Islamic terrorism as a threat that will not abate and believes we need strict border and immigration controls.
13 posted on 03/09/2016 6:12:12 AM PST by utahagen
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To: Wpin
Jonah I must have missed your columns on TPP, Carker Bill, 19.5 trillion in debt all the executive orders Obama signed that if we give them Senate won't happen we have the power of the purse

The Matter is Jonah people kind of remember those lies and you were a part of them

14 posted on 03/09/2016 6:13:45 AM PST by scooby321
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To: Kaslin

The irony of Jonah Goldberg lecturing about what conservative purists “ought” to be doing.


15 posted on 03/09/2016 6:19:50 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: Kaslin

Is this the guy that Trump said cannot afford pants?


16 posted on 03/09/2016 6:21:00 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Kaslin

Forfeiting is not victory. “Noble defeats” are not victory. Vacating the battlefield to let your enemy win is not victory.


17 posted on 03/09/2016 6:22:59 AM PST by baltimorepoet
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To: MNJohnnie

No wonder we can never get a real Conservative in the White house. None of us even know what the hell it is anymore.


18 posted on 03/09/2016 6:23:10 AM PST by Durbin
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To: pepsi_junkie; Awgie

Double BINGO


19 posted on 03/09/2016 6:26:31 AM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: Wpin
People who support Trump are from across the spectrum demographically...it is a broad based movement that has much more strength as conservative ideology that will actually get implemented, that is why we support Trump. We believe him and his ability to actually succeed.

That's it. Trump is not the perfect copy book conservative. However, the policies he advocates are basically and strongly conservative, although he approaches the advocacy in a different direction, thereby building a larger coalition to support his policy proposals. The upshot of all this is likely to be President Trump will actually move the country farther to the right than any of the other Republican candidates. Hence, I support him.

Of course, this is a risk, but one well worth taking in view of all of the "great conservatives", like Rubio who've really screwed us when it counted.

20 posted on 03/09/2016 6:26:47 AM PST by libstripper
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