Posted on 03/09/2016 5:58:07 AM PST by Kaslin
Whatever a “conservative purist” is I don’t want to be. I’m more conservative than Goldberg and I’ve done more for conservatism than he has.
Whatever a “conservative purist” is I don’t want to be. I’m more conservative than Goldberg and I’ve done more for conservatism than he has.
Speaking as a “purist” conservative who has been supporting Cruz, the thing I like about Trump is he is shaking the corrupt foundations of the lying snakes in the GOPe. At this point I still prefer Cruz but I’m no dummy, he’s not getting the nod. So I will happily support Trump and hope he does half of what he brags about, secure in the knowledge that at the very least he has really upset the GOP apple cart which badly needs to be done.
Jonah seems to opt for losing so often his ideals become ever more far fetched. Giving the Socialists the country and winning every 35 years is too infrequent.
Maybe JG it is because grownups recognize Politics is a conflation of interests why “remforocons” thinks purity uber alles is a “winning” strategy.
Sorry “Remoforcons” your “lose with honor” notions are the same notions that cause a child to throw a temper tantrum when they do not get their way. You are losing the debate and rather then accept that, like a grownups, you are throwing a childish temperamental. That might work in publishing, it is politically suicidal
There is no principal at work in the “reformocons” other then a bull head determination that ONLY their notions counts and any other solution is “heresy”.
Why so many different definitions of Conservatism? This does nothing more than divide us into groups and water us down.
The two main factions of Conservatism:
Neoconservatism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
Paleoconservatism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism
Which one are you?
I dont know that it is irony that conservatives are thinking "conservatism be damned", I think it is that we would rather have Trump over Hillary.
Wow, did Goldberg miss the mark on that one! That is the problem with so called conservatives who do not understand how the world works and that to make change in a conservative way will require sometimes using means to get there...like free trade...we have no free trade right now, to pretend that we do is blind. We have stupid trade, we give the other nations everything to beat our own American businesses with. To get to free trade we need to negotiate trade deals to actually reflect fee trade.
People who support Trump are from across the spectrum demographically...it is a broad based movement that has much more strength as conservative ideology that will actually get implemented, that is why we support Trump. We believe him and his ability to actually succeed.
Maybe because when everyone from Jeb Bush to Ted Cruz to John Karisch claim to be “the real Conservative” the word has been so bastardized it has lost all meaning.
Tht the problem for the Conservative Establishment like NR, Town Hall, Et All, they have no idea what the word “conservative” means anymore. Apprent “Conservative” is now any “GOPE approved politician”
Explain how CPAC give a standing ovation to “Conservative Hero” Paul Ryan who basically wrote Obama a blank check on the taxpayers for the last year of his Presidency?
Bingo!
The Matter is Jonah people kind of remember those lies and you were a part of them
The irony of Jonah Goldberg lecturing about what conservative purists “ought” to be doing.
Is this the guy that Trump said cannot afford pants?
Forfeiting is not victory. “Noble defeats” are not victory. Vacating the battlefield to let your enemy win is not victory.
No wonder we can never get a real Conservative in the White house. None of us even know what the hell it is anymore.
Double BINGO
That's it. Trump is not the perfect copy book conservative. However, the policies he advocates are basically and strongly conservative, although he approaches the advocacy in a different direction, thereby building a larger coalition to support his policy proposals. The upshot of all this is likely to be President Trump will actually move the country farther to the right than any of the other Republican candidates. Hence, I support him.
Of course, this is a risk, but one well worth taking in view of all of the "great conservatives", like Rubio who've really screwed us when it counted.
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