[kiryandil]

It was a felony traffic stop that was illegally ignored by Mr. Finicum, who had a death wish and brought about his own death.

If you have watched the video from inside the truck, you're a liar, RightFighter.

Ryan Bundy and LaVoy Finicum, AFTER BEING SHOT AT, had to badger the unknown men into identifying themselves.

They claimed they were Oregon State Police.

Any state police in any state I've been in are INSTANTLY identifiable.

Which makes me believe these guys were dressed up in Gear Queer "pretend soldier" suits...

If you haven't watched the video from inside the truck, you need to go dothat now, and stop spreading untruths about something you know nothing about.

[RightFighter]

I’ve watched the video you’re referencing. You’re wrong on the timeline. They had not been shot at yet at the point where they were asking the officers to identify themselves.

You’re simply being obtuse if you’re suggesting that they didn’t know who the men with the black SUVs and flashy lights and guns were behind them. Of course those guys were in tactical gear - they were making a felony stop of people that they knew were armed. All the occupants needed to know was that they were law enforcement officers. I don’t care what you think about your rights, when there are law enforcement officers behind you with guns telling you to exit your vehicle, you do exactly as you’re told.

[RightFighter]

I was mistaken about the initial stop - they were fired at with one nonlethal round at the initial stop.