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Some Things Are Non-Negotiable—Like True Pro-Life Convictions
bound4life.com ^ | March 9, 2016 | Lisa Smiley

Posted on 03/13/2016 6:40:19 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: wmfights

Me too. Trump professes he is prolife but is OK with killing the baby if the dad is a rapist. That’s not a principled prolife position. It ends the conversation as far as I’m concerned. Not negotiable indeed.

Peace,

SR


21 posted on 03/14/2016 12:37:24 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Reagan signed an abortion liberalization law in California in 1967 that did that very thing. People later looked on him as a hero. He had blood stained hands.


22 posted on 03/14/2016 12:39:43 AM PDT by r_barton
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To: JayGalt; chesley; wmfights; Morgana
"America cannot afford to be a one issue Nation."

If respect for human life is not in the forefront of one's worldview, then anything goes and all other rights become "negotiable" (we are either endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, or we are not). Without life, there can be no liberty (and certainly no pursuit of happiness).

If all lives don't matter, then no lives can matter.
Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, RKBA, etc. - none of them means anything if they can legislate who shall live and who shall die.

23 posted on 03/14/2016 3:45:13 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

Facts:

1) Except in the very odd/exceptional election year of 1964, the Dems haven’t cracked 50% of the whites in a Presidential election since 1932.

2) Once the ‘64 election was over, the Dems understood that they would never win another Presidential election again unless the Republicans REALLY screwed up...or unless they changed the electorate in a dramatic way.

3) The Dems, courtesy of Bobby Kennedy who wrote the law, and Teddy Kennedy who pushed it in the Senate, passed the 1965 Immigration Act. That law dramatically reduced immigration from our then-traditional large sources of immigrants - England, Ireland, Holland, Germany, etc. - and replaced them with vast numbers of Turd Worlders...whom everyone knows vote around 80% for Dems, and will continue to do so for the rest of their lives, as new immigrants have traditionally done.

4) As a result of the ‘65 Act, and due to the Dem’s outright lying in ‘86 regarding an effective (or any) fence, there are now probably 30 - 40 million illegals in this nation. Note that the (probably low-ball) figure in 2005 was 11 million...we have 2-3 million come in every year, so simple math says that the number is actually somewhere between 31 and 41 million). If any substantial portion of these people ever become citizens, then the Dems will have accomplished a complete shift of the electorate, and will be virtually invincible on the national level. Every state will become like California, both politically and economically - which is to say, overwhelming Dem and broke. But at least if you don’t like California now, you can leave for a better place without much trouble - where are you going to go if EVERY state is like that?

5) Every Republican, and every Conservative voter MUST UNDERSTAND that if such a state of affairs comes to be, NO OTHER ISSUE WILL MATTER AT ALL, because we will ALWAYS AND FOREVER lose on those issues. Immigration is THE issue of this election, and this election is as critical as the 1860 election was - and for the same reason, because it will determine whether this nation continues on as it has existed in the past, or becomes a new and unrecognizable entity that simply occupies the same geographic territory.

Please wake up, and help others to do so by sending them this post (or recommending “Adios America” to them). It really is THAT important.


24 posted on 03/14/2016 4:32:08 AM PDT by Ultima
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To: Ultima; Morgana
"Please wake up..."

All of the border security one could ever imagine or hope for would be meaningless if we don't give a rats ass about little baby boys and little baby girls getting their arms and legs painfully ripped off of their precious little bodies.
Wake up. God will judge our nation if we continue to allow this to happen - do you think God cares a whit about our border integrity if we don't have moral integrity as a people?

25 posted on 03/14/2016 5:26:33 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

You’re NEVER going to get abortion outlawed once the demographics reach a certain point. So you’re not going to get what you want until other conditions are met.


26 posted on 03/14/2016 5:47:44 AM PDT by Ultima
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To: Morgana

Clinton or the GOP candidate will win.

IF you do not vote, you are standign ideal and allowing the election Hilary Clinton. Clinton is a big proponent of abortion and will put in places polices that increase the number of abortions.

By not voting you are morally accountable for increasing the number of abortions in this country.

It is not principal working here, it perpetual that your candidate of choice is not winning the nomination.


27 posted on 03/14/2016 5:55:31 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Psalm 73

Clinton or the GOP candidate will win.

IF you do not vote, you are standign ideal and allowing the election Hilary Clinton. Clinton is a big proponent of abortion and will put in places polices that increase the number of abortions.

Republican politicians and Republican state govemernts are doing things to reduce the number of abortions.

By not voting you are morally accountable for increasing the number of abortions in this country.

It is not principal working here, it perpetual that your candidate of choice is not winning the nomination.


28 posted on 03/14/2016 5:56:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Psalm 73

“All lives matter”; that is the goal. But we can disagree on the best strategy to ultimately achieve that goal, and in the immediate future, the importation of more DemocRAT voters MUST cease!


29 posted on 03/14/2016 6:13:00 AM PDT by chesley (Obama -- Muslim or dhimmi? And does it matter?)
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To: r_barton

I know all about Reagan. If I knew then what I know now, both personally and in terms of principle, I could not have supported him until he switched to support for the full personhood of the unborn, which he eventually did.

Bottom line, God raises up leaders and takes them down. All I really have is my conscience, and I’m not able to vote for anyone who favors murder, even if only in “special cases,” and even if the candidate was perfect in every other way. Non-negotiable. Period.

Peace,

SR


30 posted on 03/14/2016 6:15:54 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: MNJohnnie
"IF you do not vote..."

Who said anything about not voting?
If I can pull the lever for McCain and Romney, I can surely pull it for Trump.

31 posted on 03/14/2016 6:41:41 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

That’s great rhetoric but I care about actually getting there not just talking about it.


32 posted on 03/14/2016 6:46:53 AM PDT by JayGalt
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To: JayGalt; Psalm 73
...but I care about actually getting there not just talking about it.

I like a lot of my Pro-Life allies am a Born Again Christian. One day I will stand before Jesus Christ and he will judge me. I know I have failed Him so many times I can't count them, but I sure don't want Him to ask me why I didn't protect His innocent children. I'd rather see the country fall before I fail my Savior on this.

Some things are not negotiable.

33 posted on 03/14/2016 9:46:48 AM PDT by wmfights (a stranger in a hostile and foreign land that used to be my home)
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To: Springfield Reformer; r_barton
Non-negotiable. Period.

Fiscal conservatives and nationalists don't want to understand this point. If they want Pro-Lifers to support them there will not be any backing off on this. We can argue about tactics that will move us to ending abortion, but the end goal must be to end it. Any support of those who promote abortion and or profit from it is a deal breaker.

34 posted on 03/14/2016 9:53:33 AM PDT by wmfights (a stranger in a hostile and foreign land that used to be my home)
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To: jobim

Yes it does.


35 posted on 03/14/2016 10:02:42 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: wagglebee

fyi


36 posted on 03/14/2016 10:04:58 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: JayGalt
"That’s great rhetoric but I care about actually getting there not just talking about it."

Ever stood (or kneeled) outside an abortion mill when it's 10 degrees and snowing?
Ever seen someone dragging a girl into the clinic against her will?
Ever see the girls coming out after the deed is done, sobbing with that vacant look in their eyes?

Ever think maybe illegal immigration, dissolution of the American family unit, homosexual agendas on steroids, rampant pornography and drug use is but a symptom of a larger societal ill?

You may have never stopped to think how our nation's soul is damaged by giving a nod and a wink to the slaughter of human babies. We will never stop drowning in debt and illegal immigrants until we deal with the scourge of abortion.

37 posted on 03/14/2016 11:01:55 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

You are not understanding what I’m saying. I don’t disagree with you, I am no less unhappy about where we have been brought as a Nation but we aren’t going to change things unless we fight smart. Trump fights smart. Cruz is a liar and an insider bought & paid for and he will lose the general election. He has been so dirty in his tactics I can’t imagine he would give more than pro-life lip service if he were elected. His track record for accomplishments is poor.

Trump is deeply committed to life and to the unborn, and has undergone a personal journey since 2000 to get there, but he allows the small amount of wiggle room that will allow people to cross the aisle and support him because of other issues. If you insist on a candidate who says he’s/she’s giving you everything you want you are either going to get taken for a fool or left at the alter because they will not be electable.


38 posted on 03/14/2016 1:04:41 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: wmfights

And what will you tell him when he tells you that all or none was not the way to get there?

There has to be some faith involved. A path has opened, a man not in the political arena has been called to stand for America against the special interests and anti-Christian bigotry. How can you be so sure that this is not the path we are meant to travel?


39 posted on 03/14/2016 1:37:35 PM PDT by JayGalt
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