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Mark Levin Unwittingly Helped Trump [arthur march vanity]

Posted on 03/20/2016 7:13:49 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March

Who is more statist? Trump or Cruz?

Mark Levin attempted to paint Trump as a 'statist'.*

'Statist' means 'big government' and 'centralized power'.

So let's compare Trump and Cruz.

First there are two points in Cruz' favor:

Cruz is opposed to Big Ethanol and wants to completely defund Family Planning. Small differences fiscally speaking, but those are two examples of Trump being a 'statist'. [Two for Levin.]

Health care is a wash. Trump and Cruz are both anti-statist on that issue because they both seek to de-centralize.

Now for important differences:

Point 1: Twenty five percent of federal employees would quit under the Trump presidency.* Trump is notorious as a cost-cutter. Is that statist? It's a stab at the very heart of Levin's point.

Point 2: Leftist rent-a-mobs are statist. Cruz blamed Trump for his anti-statist attitude about these brown shirts.

One reason democrats seem more popular than they do is because they have followed the Nazi maxim to 'conquer the streets'. These goons even conquer public rallies.

This is the most dangerous aspect of statist power and might be the worst political error Cruz has ever made.

Point 3: Senator Cruz did much more than simply vote for Chief Justice Roberts. He pushed for him. On the flip side, Trump's top two judicial considerations are anything but statist. Cruz is actually closer to being a statist regarding judicial nominees, and that is supposed to be his greatest strength!

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Why Mark Levin is in Error

Levin equates populism with progressivism and statism.

But the dominant element of Trump's populism has nothing to do with big ethanol or family planning.

Here are the driving forces behind Trump's populism:

Point 1: Trump promises to waterboard. [Cruz ducks that particular issue.]

Point 2: Trump's trade policy. [Cruz opposes.]

Point 3: Trump's muslim ban. [Cruz opposes.]

Point 4: Most definitive of all is Trump's enthusiasm for a border wall. Cruz agrees, but he failed to be as confrontational with Mexico, thus his enthusiasm was less intense.

What do all four of those differences have in common?

Patriotism.

That's why Trump is referred to as a 'nationalist'.

Patriotic populism is not 'progressivism'.

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I still admire Mark Levin.

His Liberty Amendments movement which is downright revolutionary. He's the Madison of this century. And Trump is also revolutionary in his patriotic courage.

I hope that Levin will one day appreciate what is being achieved.

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* Link will be provided in followup posting.


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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

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21 posted on 03/20/2016 7:40:58 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: lonestar67; Arthur Wildfire! March
Another entry in bizarro world free republic

So says Dr. Bizarro. The Doctor is in the house!

22 posted on 03/20/2016 7:41:51 AM PDT by disndat
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To: Mac n Jac
Uh, NO. Trump wants UNIVERSAL health car PAID for by the GOVERNMENT. How is that “de-centralized?”

Where did you get that? I've read Trump's healthcare proposal, and saw nothing about "government paid universal health care." Are you sure you weren't reading Sanders or Clinton websites? Trump's proposal looks a lot like the conservative ideas that have been promoted for years. You can read the whole thing for yourself at his website, but here are the bullet points:

  1. Completely repeal Obamacare.
  2. Modify existing law that inhibits the sale of health insurance across state lines.
  3. Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system...
  4. Allow individuals to use Health Savings Accounts (HSAs).
  5. Require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals
  6. Block-grant Medicaid to the states.
  7. Remove barriers to entry into free markets for drug providers that offer safe, reliable and cheaper products.
I have edited out the details, but you can see them all at the link above.

Disclaimer: I do not work on any candidate's campaign. I am merely posting what is public information, which anyone can find simply by going to Donald Trump's campaign website.

23 posted on 03/20/2016 7:44:40 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Mac n Jac
Trump wants UNIVERSAL health car PAID for by the GOVERNMENT. How is that “de-centralized?”

Please take the liberty to go to Trump's campaign website where this is clearly not the case.

One of my pet peeves is lazy FReepers who throw crap against their computer screen all day.

24 posted on 03/20/2016 7:47:02 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Yuge 2016)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

All these guys with TDS, Levin, Beck, Shapiro, and the NRO crowd appearing on Fox News, I’m sick of them.

They can spout all the crap they want about Trump. Trump will eat them up and spit them out.


25 posted on 03/20/2016 7:50:15 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: impimp

Ted Cruz Disagrees With Trump Muslim Ban, But Won’t Criticize Him For It
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3369868/posts


26 posted on 03/20/2016 7:51:25 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: MLL

I’m also trying to think of the last statist president opposed to free trade.

Must have been some time back.


27 posted on 03/20/2016 7:52:20 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: MLL; Liz

In fact, the Clintons are cashing in big time from foreign interests. Liz has researched that exhaustively.

I think that’s why statists love free trade. It’s a cash cow for them.

Remember when Ron Brown was giving dual use tech to China? Half of China’s success was due to the Clintons.


28 posted on 03/20/2016 7:54:19 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Who do you think is promoting a return to constitutionalism? What is more limited government than adhering to the constitution?


29 posted on 03/20/2016 7:54:33 AM PDT by optiguy
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To: optiguy

It’s a huge plus in Cruz’ favor that he supports constitutional amendments to limit government. Unfortunately, he’s damaged himself too many times. Now all he’s doing is preventing anti-establishment unity.


30 posted on 03/20/2016 7:57:22 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Conservatives who support Trump have a lot of angst. In their heart of hearts they know Trump is not conservative, and he has no track record in government to know which way he will swing once in power.

Unfortunately, his record, statments, and personality tell us he will swing to the center, support big government solutions to help those who he considers disadvantaged (using our money), and will depend only on himself for advice (his autocratic side has been clearly displayed).

Just a few examples:
Trump is for the healthcare mandate, and universal coverage for the poor by the government.
Is enthusiastically in favor of crony capitalists using government to appropriate the private property of citizens.
Was a willing participant in the crony system, sending giant donations to political insiders in both parties,
Supports the ethanol mandate,
Thought Scalia was too tough in questioning affirmative action,
Is against local control of western lands,
Thought Cruz should not have confronted McConnell over the crony import/export bank
Said he would always err on the side of “safety” over freedom and privacy on the question of government snooping.


31 posted on 03/20/2016 7:58:26 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: optiguy

I also admire Cruz wanting to buck unconstitutional supreme court rulings. That’s a great attitude to fight the statists. If Trump could trust him, Cruz would make an amazing Attorney General.


32 posted on 03/20/2016 8:00:33 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: BigBobber

I understand your concern and ...

I point out frequently that Cruz supporters are patriots. You guys care deeply about the USA.

But your average ‘flyover patriot’ is not as gullible as you think. Trump’s rallies include massive amounts of ‘stream of consciousness’.

That’s an interrogation tactic — keep them talking. He’s allowing the public to see the inner workings of his mind. That’s why he has said so many outrageous things.


33 posted on 03/20/2016 8:03:58 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

Obama has been trying to penalize businesses and wealthy people from leaving. Almost the same as a wall to keep us in. You’re right. Hillary will do more to build that Iron Curtain of the USSA.


34 posted on 03/20/2016 8:06:31 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; MLL
......statists love free trade. It’s a cash cow for them. Remember when Ron Brown was giving dual use tech to China? Half of China’s success was due to the Clintons. The do-good Clintons are cashing in big time from foreign interests......

There/s BILLIONS in the Clinton Crime Family Slush Fund AKA The Clinton Family Foundation.

At first glance, the Clintons astounding honoraria and humongous Foundation donations seem to provide the bulk of the couples mega income.

Bills honoraria increased dramatically pocketing some $50 million during Hillarys four-year term as Secretary of State....including an Irish scholarship fund, a Korean conglomerate, and, a Nigerian newspaper company......each of whom paid Clinton more than half a million dollars for a single speech.

The Wash/Post reports Hillary earned $11.7 million for 51 speeches since Jan 2014.....she pocketed an astonishing $625,000 for two speeches in one day.

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I firmly believe the Clinton Foundations gigantic donor list, and their astonishing blizzard of speaking honoraria, are a smoke screen for their secret wealth....and the way they make billions sub rosa....intertwining their vaunted do-goodism and their multiple tax-paid public offices.

The calculated Clintons have sought to branch out into other business activities. All of that is kept under wraps. Very little is known about the exact nature and financial worth of Bill and Hillarys non-speech business interests.

Reports keep surfacing indicating the Clintons were party to multi/billion dollar Mideast arms deals....Kazakhstan uranium mines....and Haitian gold mines...Libyan oil deals....telecom businesses, deals w/ financial powerhouses like Teneo, Goldman Sachs.....etc etc etc.

THE CON ARTIST CLINTONS GRABBED EVERYTHNG THAT WASNT NAILED DOWN Lucrative business interests were cunningly intertwined w/ the Foundations transparent do-good activities....enabled by Hillarys catbird seat at the State Dept.

At last count, the Clintons apparently raised an astounding $2 billion from their foundation activities and their political campaigns.....

.....does not include monies flowing in from the various lucrative business ventures, interest accrued, safe deposit boxes, real estate assets, passive income on which they pay no taxes, income from Chelseas hubbys hedge fund, monies invested in Goldman Sachs, interest in financial powerhouse Teneo..... etc etc etc.......

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The Clintons are worth a bundle.....accumulated in record time. Their livelihood was collected as they marched through American politics.

They co-opted taxpayers by using OUR govt and information they were privy to by virtue of govt office in order to pocket big bucks.

35 posted on 03/20/2016 8:06:43 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: Mac n Jac
Uh, NO. Trump wants UNIVERSAL health car PAID for by the GOVERNMENT. How is that “de-centralized?”

BS Trump want the opposite. Where did you get this bogus information? liber blog!!!!!!

36 posted on 03/20/2016 8:07:46 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: BigBobber

‘Said he would always err on the side of “safety” over freedom and privacy on the question of government snooping ...’

That’s a point. But we are at war.

As soon as we get a handle on immigration we should get more privacy restored. But once we have, then it would be statist to support excessive snooping.

So that’s a good issue for the next presidential campaign.


37 posted on 03/20/2016 8:10:27 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: Liz; M. Thatcher; MarkL

Thank you liz!

Exactly. And I believe that many more free trade statists cash in on a much smaller scale. But they collectively inflict even more harm than the Clintons.


38 posted on 03/20/2016 8:14:00 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: Logical me; Extremely Extreme Extremist

It’s also impossible for Cruz to get anything more anti-statist achieved in healthcare than Trump unless heunilaterally defunded health care.

That would probably get him impeached with a bipartizan super majority.


39 posted on 03/20/2016 8:17:09 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
A lot of the Clintons wealth was obtained illegally. Other mere mortals would have had the feds, the secret Service, and various bank examiners on their backs.

Now, banks drill anti-money laundering and anti-terrorist funding teaching into the heads of all bank employees. EVERY transaction -- especially by those who are politically involved -- is subject to scrutiny.

There is no way -- categorically N.O. way -- in a Patriot-Act world that anyone could have pulled off what is alleged against the Clinton Foundation. Unless it was a Clinton, acting with the express complicity of some very high-ups at some very big banks.

Every suspect transaction will have a report filled out and filed about it. If it involves international transfers and shady characters (think of the latest list of the Friends of Bill) the issues - each and every one -- would be escalated to senior management.

The bank reports themselves are required to be on file for 5 years. Discussion of such reports -- even their existence -- is strictly controlled and generally forbidden. Yet they remain on record.

I suppose it's conceivable that suspicious activity reports were duly passed on to OCC (bank oversight agencies)....and whomever else has jurisdiction and there they were buried. But some bankers still know about them.

Unless they weren't filed, and that itself is a crime under the applicable law. (hat tip 9th Life)

40 posted on 03/20/2016 8:20:01 AM PDT by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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