Posted on 03/31/2016 10:57:26 AM PDT by Morgana
Donald Trump’s comment, and subsequent backtracking, of a claim that women should be “punished” for having an abortion has sparked furious debate nationwide and within pro-life circles.
In a new interview, pro-life Ohio Governor and Republican presidential candidate John Kasich says he disagrees with punishing women who have abortions by putting them in jail. Here’s what Kasich had to say:
TODD: “Chris Matthews asked Donald Trump should there be some form of punishment for women who have an abortion? And Trump says yeah, I think there should be a punishment. He didn’t describe what that punishment is. I know you’re somebody who believes abortion should be banned. should women who get abortions be punished?”
KASICH: “Absolutely not. I do have exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother, but abortions shouldn’t be punished. I’m sure Donald Trump will say he didn’t say it or he was misquoted or whatever, but i don’t think so. I don’t think that’s an appropriate response and it’s a difficult enough situation than to try to punish somebody.”
TODD: “Let me ask this, how do you enforce a ban on abortion?”
KASICH: “Look, I think it’s rape, incest and life of the mother and you build some restrictions around it. But I think you have to be very careful on the way you do it.”
Women who’ve had abortions also need lots of prayer.
Only John Kasich should be punished....for each & every one....
And the President’s daughters shouldn’t be ‘punished with a baby’.
The question was asked based on if it became against the law to have an abortion. Punishment makes sense when one breaks the law. Kasich and Cruz are bought abd paid for.
http://newsninja2012.com/don-trump-jr-defends-father-on-abortion-comments-rips-media-for-out-of-context-smear/
The president, any president who says such a thing should be ashamed of him or herself!!!
“I do have exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother, but abortions shouldn’t be punished.”
The way he worded that sounds like he only wants to punish women who get abortions in cases of rape, incest or where the life of the mother is threatened...
Can I ask a stupid question?
When abortion was illegal, who was punished for committing the crime? If Roe vs Wade were overturned, wouldn’t all of those old abortion laws come back on the books? What was the penalty in the old days? Why does nobody in the media ask this simple question as to who was punished in the past, when illegal abortions happened? Were women out in jail in the last for illegal abortions???
Apparently so is Trump, because he’s already walked it back.
What they need is ethics training early in life. And maybe a dose of actions having consequences for other things before they find themselves pregnant and "victims" of their own decisions.
Kasich's answer is as bad as it gets. He was asked how do you enforce the ban on abortions if there aren't consequences? He answered with the exemptions to an abortion ban, so I guess he was implying that the woman could say she was a victim of rape or incest or that she faces risk of suicide or whatever
And I don't mean "she'll suffer for the rest of her life" nonsense. The baby she allowed to be killed doesn't even get the chance to "suffer".
It amazes me that rule of law conservatives crumple like a cheap suit when this question comes up. The underlying argument of the “no punishment” argument is that breaking laws should have no consequence.
I agree that some women who have abortions have been victimized. However, an equally compelling argument can be made that many illegal aliens are victims. Is there really anybody on this forum who thinks that illegal aliens should face no consequences for breaking our immigration laws?
While I understand that Trump walked into a buzz saw politically, do we really believe that he took an immoral position by speculating that if abortion were illegal that breaking the law should have some consequence? Or do we want to hypocritically take that position merely to gather votes?
One could criminalize performing abortions without criminalizing seeking an abortion. Criminalizing performing abortions (and persuading/coercing others to have an abortion) would be a big step forward from where we are now.
If guns are outlawed by Congress, what do you think liberals would say regarding whether gun owners should be punished for not giving them up (defying the law)?
bfl
God will sort it out.
Okay, killing someone else ain’t all that bad anymore. uh huh
Why punish anyone?
Amazing how all these men are very concerned about women and abortions.
I don’t recall anyone saying anything about “jail time” as punishment....
Welcome to the GOPe Convention in Cleveland
http://www.cleveland.com/rnc-2016/index.ssf/2016/03/guns_in_the_q_not_happening_gu.html
“When abortion was illegal, who was punished for committing the crime?”
The laws punished those who performed or “procured” the abortion, not the mothers.
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