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John Kasich: Women Should Not be Punished for Having an Abortion
lifenews.com ^ | March 31, 2016 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 03/31/2016 10:57:26 AM PDT by Morgana

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To: Morgana

OK John, so who goes to prison killing an innocent life?

The doctor?

Sucking out the brains of a living being deserves some type of punishment, doesn’t it? Are you ok with that?

Or do you simply want to look the other way? If that is the case, you deserve no respect from anyone.


61 posted on 03/31/2016 11:50:41 AM PDT by doldrumsforgop
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To: papertyger

If every candidate focused on AMERICAN issues, we would all be better off.

Too many people focus on putting us in a category instead of simply developing policies which will benefit all.

That’s the President’s job; fix the country’s problems.


62 posted on 03/31/2016 11:56:05 AM PDT by jokemoke
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To: Morgana

Morally, we should not make exceptions for wilful murderers just because they spell the word “MURDER” as

“A” “B” “O” “R” “T” “I” “O” “N”


63 posted on 03/31/2016 12:02:38 PM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: fortheDeclaration

No? Sorry, can’t take you seriously.


64 posted on 03/31/2016 12:04:48 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: Morgana

What were the Punishments for violating the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Legislation?

Heck, did it even Pass, I can’t remember.


65 posted on 03/31/2016 12:05:33 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (It is better to live one day as a lion than one hundred years as a sheep)
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To: jwalsh07
It seems many pro-lifer's can't be taken seriously, they believe abortion is murder, but don't want to punish the murderer!

Would you punish the mother if she killed the infant the day after it was born or isn't she responsible then either?

66 posted on 03/31/2016 12:11:40 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: mazz44

Politics is the art of the possible, and given the imperfection of human nature, one cannot criminalize everything.

The last time all the apparently unjust were wiped out, it didn’t work out all that well, as several people were allowed on the ark who had problems.

If you really want to get to the root of the problem, you need to change people’s hearts so that they embrace a healthy sexuality.


67 posted on 03/31/2016 12:17:55 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Morgana
Ann Coulter ✔ ‎‎@AnnCoulter Religious conservatives: We will not even accept a fine. (We aren't THAT against abortion if we can bash Trump.) https://twitter.com/FoxBusiness/status/715302990853214208 …
68 posted on 03/31/2016 12:18:06 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: little jeremiah

“Obviously there should also be more recourse and help for women who are pregnant and do not/cannot for some reason care for the baby, as well as what used to be called home for unwed mothers.”

It’s called sterilization.


69 posted on 03/31/2016 12:33:37 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Let’s also not forget that the killing of a pregnant mother is a double homicide.


70 posted on 03/31/2016 12:35:57 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: TheConservativeBanker
The underlying argument of the “no punishment” argument is that breaking laws should have no consequence.

I think the argument is that performing an abortion should be illegal, not having one performed on you.

71 posted on 03/31/2016 12:40:50 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: papertyger

In an abortion, a woman has violence done to her (even if she solicits and pays for it) a child is tortured and killed in the act of the abortion. So before the law intervenes violence is done to two people. Therefore the woman does not suffer alone. If we have a law with penalties and only the woman faces sanctions then you might argue that she suffers alone with respect to the operation of law. Thus, almost anyone who is pro-life would like to see legal sanctions against the provider. Is this what you mean in saying that everyone agrees that the woman should not suffer alone (I assume you meant suffering with respect to legal consequences), I agree. In other crimes where there are two active lawbreakers (e.g., drug dealer and drug purchaser) it is not considered immoral or cruel that both parties face some kind of legal penalty. The penalty need not be equal for the two parties. Laws can recognize different levels of culpability in the illegal act and have differing penalties based on degree of culpability.

I just have a rule of law problem if we reach a point where abortion becomes illegal and the provider faces legal sanctions but the customer does not.


72 posted on 03/31/2016 12:45:53 PM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: SgtHooper

I do not agree with forced sterilization except in extreme cases. When women are not paid to have children and men are not free to impregnate women with no responsibility, the number of “unwanted” children will drop quickly. AND when everyone who wants to eat, has to work. Gov bennies combined with the promotion of a free for all sexual immorality has created this problem.


73 posted on 03/31/2016 12:46:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: SgtHooper

Good point.


74 posted on 03/31/2016 1:12:06 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Morgana

I think the threat of punishment for the crime of abortion might make women think twice about this; I think further if the father is pushing it or is involved in this crime in anyway, he should be punished too.

(By the way, punishment for this IS going to happen in the hereafter!)


75 posted on 03/31/2016 1:43:17 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: jokemoke

“That’s the President’s job; fix the country’s problems.”

You could not be further from the truth.

The President’s job is to pursue the laws enacted by Congress.

He does not ‘fix’ anything, but executes.

Most problems begin with some stupid federally-enacted law or bureaucratic degree anyway, so what you propose is to make law or decrees then have the govt ‘fix’ the mess they made themselves?


76 posted on 03/31/2016 2:05:21 PM PDT by doldrumsforgop
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To: fortheDeclaration

“It seems many pro-lifer’s can’t be taken seriously, they believe abortion is murder, but don’t want to punish the murderer! “

A pro-lifer is not by definition a pro-lifer if it condones murder of an unborn or born infant.

Condoning includes not executing the law for murder.


77 posted on 03/31/2016 2:07:37 PM PDT by doldrumsforgop
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To: doldrumsforgop

It seems that fact is lost on many on FR and by Cruz and Kasich and (sad to say) Trump.


78 posted on 03/31/2016 3:10:05 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: TheConservativeBanker

Following the logic now, women who engage in prostitution should not be arrested.


79 posted on 03/31/2016 4:56:40 PM PDT by odawg
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To: doldrumsforgop

I had a feeling no matter how I answered you, I’d be wrong and you’d be right. Hooray for you!


80 posted on 03/31/2016 5:28:08 PM PDT by jokemoke
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