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The Boy Who Became a World War II Veteran at 13 Years Old
Smithsonian Mag ^ | DECEMBER 19, 2012 | By Gilbert King

Posted on 04/01/2016 5:14:25 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

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To: Jet Jaguar

This is so interesting! My dad lied about his age, too and ended up on the Enterprise! He sent his pay home to his mother and 9 sisters, shot craps for more. My aunts have told me they would have starved during the war if it were not for him. These guys were such heroes. I can’t see any 12 y o today doing what they did, but you never know...


21 posted on 04/01/2016 6:29:21 PM PDT by buckeye49
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To: JPJones

Good picture to have and a good lesson to teach.


22 posted on 04/01/2016 6:29:32 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: central_va

“By all accounts the Franklin should have sunk but they somehow saved her which was a miracle.”

Yup. I’m impressed you know about it.

Most of that stuff is being forgotten.


23 posted on 04/01/2016 6:31:27 PM PDT by JPJones
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It is true what a lot of critics say that air craft carriers are vulnerable. But they don’t take into account how damn tough they are. They are damn hard to sink. Even heavily damaged with right shipyard they can be repaired fairly quickly.


24 posted on 04/01/2016 6:35:50 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

“Good picture to have and a good lesson to teach.”

The more of what I see being taught at schools, the more I agree with you.

I had another smaller version for my daughter that had the tagline “Think your life sucks? At least your not here.”

With an arrow pointing to decks at the water line. (Where my dad says he was trapped, with water coming in)

Nothing like a little perspective for the kids!


25 posted on 04/01/2016 6:36:22 PM PDT by JPJones
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” They are damn hard to sink.”

That’s for sure. The Franklin lost 900 hands in about 5 minutes, and still managed to keep her afloat.


26 posted on 04/01/2016 6:38:22 PM PDT by JPJones
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To: buckeye49

“These guys were such heroes.”

You got that right.


27 posted on 04/01/2016 6:42:56 PM PDT by JPJones
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That’s for sure. The Franklin lost 900 hands in about 5 minutes, and still managed to keep her afloat.

Somehow the engineers managed to keep her moving under her own power. That is what helped a lot.

28 posted on 04/01/2016 6:46:53 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Some kids stepped forward early in life and generally, the military knew who they were. There were also old timers, too old to step forward, who found a way to join the fight. My dad was one; born in 1906. He served in the China-Burma-India Campaign as a civilian pilot over the Hump in a C-46.


29 posted on 04/01/2016 6:54:24 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I seem to recall that the South Dakota was put out of action fairly early in the battle. The engineers had done something to the ship’s circuit breakers that caused them to lock out when the ship first fired its main guns, leaving it literally powerless and unable to respond to the Japanese.

It was the USS Washington that did the bulk of the shooting that night, sinking a Japanese battleship (IJN Kirishima) in the process. The Washington continued on in the campaign, while the South Dakota limped home for repairs...and its crew claimed for itself the victories scored by the Washington. When the men of the Washington learned of this months later, there was no end of enmity between the two ships’ crews.


30 posted on 04/01/2016 6:59:15 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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Interesting story. Thanks.


31 posted on 04/01/2016 7:05:00 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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“as a civilian pilot over the Hump in a C-46.”

That’s cool. What’s over the Hump? It sounds familiar.


32 posted on 04/01/2016 7:07:05 PM PDT by JPJones
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Excellent thread. Amazing story, amazing guy.


33 posted on 04/01/2016 7:10:29 PM PDT by The Continental Op
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My Dad quit school as soon as he turned 17 and enlisted in the Navy...

Was a destroyer sailor in the Pacific...He and other members of his crew were involved in firefighting and damage control on board the Franklin...He had some great pics taken from his destroyer (USS Melvin DD680) along side the Franklin as she listed, engulfed in smoke...

They helped save “Big Ben”...


34 posted on 04/01/2016 7:19:36 PM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak!)
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To: The Continental Op

It was a different time.

In “Band of Brothers” one of the men of Easy Company, talked about how a few guys from his hometown committed suicide when they were turned down for serving.


35 posted on 04/01/2016 7:23:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jet Jaguar

Nuthin` new:

“1777: KIDS FIGHT WITH MUSKETS AND BAYONETS
AT BATTLE OF SARATOGA”
Thirteen year old boys with muskets fought at Saratoga.

Dwight, “The Northern Traveler”, 1841, p141


36 posted on 04/01/2016 7:28:03 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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To: Jet Jaguar

“Powder monkeys” go all the way back to the first ships with cannons.


37 posted on 04/01/2016 7:29:25 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: elteemike

My Dad quit school as soon as he turned 17 and enlisted in the Navy...

Was a destroyer sailor in the Pacific...He and other members of his crew were involved in firefighting and damage control on board the Franklin...He had some great pics taken from his destroyer (USS Melvin DD680) along side the Franklin as she listed, engulfed in smoke...

They helped save “Big Ben”...”

That’s awesome ! Nice to know you!


38 posted on 04/01/2016 7:38:18 PM PDT by JPJones
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To: Jet Jaguar

While the battleship USS South Dakota was scrapped, parts of the ship including one of her massive propellers, is part of a memorial in Sioux Falls, SD.


39 posted on 04/01/2016 7:39:43 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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The Hump was the Himalayas, overflown by C-46’s enroute to supporting the China-Burma-India theater. Hump time was logged separately & many aircraft were lost where there was absolutely no place to land. Hump pilots were an elite.


40 posted on 04/01/2016 8:20:25 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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