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To: hattend; All

“The Occupy Lie”

I saw this graphic on Facebook and was taken aback by how expensive this debt seems to be. However, doing the math reveals that the numbers are very misleading.

The graphic says, “Student loan paid faithfully for 23 years: Borrowed $26,400. Paid back to date: $32,700. Still OWE: $45,276.63. No Bankruptcy of Forgiveness Allowed. Only Death or Total Disability frees you. NO Social Security or Medicare till paid off.”

Let’s look at the numbers….

23 years of $32,700 total paid is equal to $118.48 per month.
($32,700/(23×12)=$118.48)

Present Value of the loan is $26,400 (borrowed amount).

Future Value of loan is $45,276.63 (balance after 23 years or 276 months).

Using my financial calculator (Texas Instruments BA-35) and DebtSmart 30-year Loan Worksheet. The APR (Annual Percentage Rate) for this loan turns out to be 6.699%. You can see the entire amortization of this loan here showing all the numbers that prove that rate to be accurate. (Page 8, payment month #276 is 23 years.)

The reason there is so much owed after 23 years is because the monthly payment didn’t cover the interest costs. The interest alone on month #1 is $147.37, however, payments of only $118.47 per month were made, and therefore, the loan will NEVER be paid off. The balance will continue to grow forever. To be more extreme, it’s like buying a car for $1,000 and only paying $1 per month and then complaining after 23 years that you now owe $10,000.

Then there is the matter of what the rates were back in 1990 when this loan was supposedly taken. According to FinAid.org, the interest rates on student loans were fixed at 8%. So how is it possible that the average rate of the claimed loan is 6.699%? In other words, how is it that they paid less than 8%?

Well, one answer is that the government reduced the rate. So not only did they lend this student the money, allow them to make payments far less than needed to pay off (probably to help the borrower out with cash flow), but they also reduced the rate over the 23 years.

The final analysis, as I see it, is that the graphic is either: (1) A complete lie; or (2) The result of getting too many breaks and not being responsible with the loan. Probably the former.
- See more at: https://www.debtsmart.com/2013/07/10/the-occupy-lie/#sthash.3AHkat8u.dpuf


84 posted on 04/09/2016 4:09:43 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Wow! Thanks for doing the work!


85 posted on 04/09/2016 4:11:05 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Rusty0604

Awesome work!

[ The final analysis, as I see it, is that the graphic is either: (1) A complete lie; or (2) The result of getting too many breaks and not being responsible with the loan. Probably the former. ]

So Probably the government “breaks” basically caused the problem, and these damn idiots want more government intervention,....... sheesh...

Great Job on the calculations!


88 posted on 04/09/2016 4:13:54 PM PDT by GraceG (The election doesn't pick the next president, it is an audition for "American Emperor"...)
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To: Rusty0604
Thank you for running the numbers.

That makes complete sense.

This woman COULDN'T have been paying even the interest on the loans.

If she did, the principle would be the same.

And just what has she been doing for the past 23 years?

The credit card example makes sense.

Pay the "minimum" and you'll take decades to pay it off.

Very foolish.

But at least you will eventually pay it off.

This dopey woman screwed herself over.

I have no sympathy.

98 posted on 04/09/2016 5:44:33 PM PDT by boop ("A Republic, if you can keep it."-Franklin, 1787. "We couldn't keep it"-America, 2016)
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To: Rusty0604

“When interest hits your eye
Like a big piece of the pie
That’s amortiza-a-tion . . . “


109 posted on 04/09/2016 6:39:34 PM PDT by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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