No, Trump can't win

The Washington Examiner ^ | April 11, 2016 | Timothy P. Carney

[JPJones]

“Why would the Democrats fail to secure their November victory like this? If Cruz loses Wisconsin, he’s done - and Trump is on the Democrat menu for the fall... “

Now that you mention it, there was an interview of an older lady, a democrat, who said she registered republican and voted Cruz. It was replayed over and over again on Fox on election day.

[kiryandil]

See my post #138, and be of good cheer. :)

[fr_freak]

Other than his groupies, he really is despised by many who consider him dangerous.
Many others just consider him a goofy childish clown.

Maybe Trump is a clown, maybe he isn't. What I find disturbing is how many people here and in the rest of the country are so easily fooled into believing that their candidate is NOT a clown. Every Republican candidate this year (and of course, all the Dems) was a clown with the possible exception of Carson, and he was mever taken seriously. The difference between them and Trump is that the rest (except Carson) spent serious time trying to polish their public persona, in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY THAT ACTORS PRACTICE THEIR LINES. Trump is actually refreshing in that he does NOT have that slick, polished feel (and neither did Carson, heh). If merely projecting a false persona with a lot of political buzzwords and reams of useless statistics is what constitutes a "mature" politician these days, I'll take Trump the Clown any day. At least when something ridiculous pops into his head, we'll know, because he'll SAY it, whereas a used car salesman like Cruz will hide it as best he can.

Whether he is a clown or not, Trump seems like the only one that a regular Joe would want to sit down and have a beer with. It's not because he is some God-like genius, but because he doesn't seem to have the multiple layers of subterfuge that define virtually every other politician. Perhaps that's why the reaction to Trump by some is so visceral - some people DEMAND to be bamboozled. Rather than accept a flawed but capable man, some people would rather be willingly deceived to believe their candidate is perfect and above everyone else.

[XEHRpa]

Excellent analysis and deduction.

[Bringbackthedraft]

If not Trump, then who? There are no winners in the GOPe, the gravitas just isn’t there. There is a struggle and and a lot of FEAR going on with the GOPe, they don’t want their apple cart toppled. I don’t call it a cart, I refer to it as the Golden Goose that sustains the 537. LOL, another post I read today, Trump/Bernie ticket. Yeah, its funny, but its also crazy enough to win it. Why not, seems like we’re headed in the direction to get a President Comacho anyway?

[kiryandil]

I did a spreadsheet with the 2008, 2012 & 2016 primaries.

Wisconsin is a particular interest of mine, since there's ALWAYS shenanigans going on, influenced in part by its southern neighbor. :)

[XEHRpa]

>>> whereas a used car salesman like Cruz will hide it as best he can.

You are right that hiding their true positions is a revered trait in a politician called “message discipline.” All it does is promote corruption, since any evidence that a pol’s private views/life does not match his public persona is embarrassing at least, and blackmailable at worst. Trump without teleprompter is indeed refreshing.

[The Continental Op]

Yep, when you see papers like the NY Times and the Washington Post running hysterical headlines saying:

“TRUMP MUST BE STOPPED!”

it sort of tells you something about who they actually fear as a candidate. No headlines like that about Cruz. They will, of course, appear if he is nominated.

[LibFreeUSA]

Thank you. Yes. Many Freepers do, and that’s one of the many reasons why many of them are still STUCK on ‘Cruz Control’.... Hate to be so blunt, but really.....if they would only get a mind of their own and shake of the ‘knee jerk’ mindset that Cruz is some sort of conservative god.

[Eric Pode of Croydon]

Well, they are alike in that they both started out as Democrats.

Reagan switched to the GOP, helped conservative candidates all over the country, built a twenty year history of conservative principles before he presumed to ask us to vote for him for the presidency.

Trump's been a self-styled conservative for about ten months now, and still slips back into his liberal big government, big Washington ideology at least a couple of times in every speech.

Reagan wanted government out of the people's lives so that they could do great things. Trump never stops talking about the great things Trump is going to do.

I don't have much of a problem telling them apart.

[XEHRpa]

To continue to support Cruz after he is numerically eliminated from a clean nomination next week is either to be unaware of the implications of a brokered convention (almost guaranteed loss of general election) or else to believe that Hillary is preferable to Trump.

Either one might be the case, but one should not fool one’s self into thinking that Cruz has a prayer in the general.

[dp0622]

Let’s focus seriously on the states he can win, once he gets the nod. NY is not in play. He is down anywhere from 20 to 30

I’m embarrassed as a NYer, but the hard left is HUGE here.

Upstate will break for him. Upstate is not FIVE to ONE republican. NYC, with 9 million people IS five to one dem. and Not your mother’s dem. HARD LEFT dems.

PA is SO in play. PA is HUGE. It brings a nice number of votes with it and it’s a tie right now!!

OH and FL we can take.

If we take those and the reds, we win, no?

[dp0622]

I didn’t believe that until recently.

He is doing worse than Trump against Hillary for the first time since maybe February.

He is done.

[DannyTN]

To be as horrible as y’all say he is, he sure is doing well in the polls and in the primaries.

[sargon]

Only an ignoramus or some sort of party hack would write articles in April and make such absolute statements about who could or couldn’t win an election that’s still seven months away.

Thanks for the much-needed clarity.

So very true.

It's as if these people have never seen the democratic process in action before.

It's as if they're doing everything they possibly can to subvert that process.

Indeed, it's as if they're willfully parroting slanted GOPe propaganda, all in order to save us from ourselves.

The non-stop character assassination of Donald Trump by the Left/Media/GOPe/"me too" Cruz campaign is wearing thin with GOP voters and with the public in general.

Ultimately, it will backfire. The signs are already appearing...

[Dstorm]

Around 148 posts and no one has answered the most important part of your post. Where is Mr. Trump going to get the money to run against her? Free publicity will be gone the MSM will shut him out, unless it reflects poorly on him, Trump supporters where is the money coming from?

[kiryandil]

I'm confident in Trump, but I'm disturbed that we could have wrapped up the presidency a month or two ago.

But the Republican establishment wasn't going to let that happen.

This makes me wonder how they're different from the Democratic establishment.

[dead]

LOL! Fag.

[sargon]

Around 148 posts and no one has answered the most important part of your post. Where is Mr. Trump going to get the money to run against her?

If that's not the dumbest question ever posed in the entire history of mankind, it has to be close...

[Theodore R.]

Mrs. Bill has the “cares about me” vote nailed down forever more.