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No, Trump can't win
The Washington Examiner ^ | April 11, 2016 | Timothy P. Carney

Posted on 04/12/2016 5:30:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: kiryandil
Thanks for sending!

So basically, the county-by-county numbers show the Dems turned out in droves to vote for Cruz, and the Conservatives turned out for Trump.

Sweet!

We all have wondered for so long - decades - 'where does America really stand,' outside of all the media and political party nonsense, because there is no way to tell - they haven't had a clear choice of anything since Reagan. We are going to find out. Part of me is quite sure we're hosed, but a slightly larger part of me thinks the news will be good ... maybe not great, but encouraging.

This seems like evidence for the latter, and lends credence to theory that the so-over-the-top in terms of sheer numbers and hyperbole of all the negative stuff in the media about Trump - is just highly financed 'journalism'.

161 posted on 04/12/2016 7:31:52 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump will destroy Hillary!
The left and the establishment would not be so incredibly afraid of Trump if they didn’t think he was going to win.
If everyone in the leftist media knew Trump would loose, they would be pumping him up big time, but they are doing the opposite. This is just the latest tactic that everyone is jumping in on. The other guy can’t win so vote for our guy.


162 posted on 04/12/2016 7:34:11 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: fr_freak
I pretty much assume all politicians are essentially clowns on some level.

Trump has been grooming his persona for decades, at least in the NYC area. He was Howard Stern all the time pushing his misogynistic playboy persona, he used to show up all the time on local news shows. He used to be seen at all sorts of NY sports events and concerts. I met him at Shea stadium - he sat right in front of us. He's a nice guy.

But he knows how to sell his persona as a very rich playboy good guy - and he probably is. But that's not really what I'm looking for in a president. A hard partying, good bowling butcher might also be a great guy, every salty old fishing boat captain I've met have been great guys. My best friend since kindergarten is a NYC union guy who goes to a lot of country and blues shows with me - great guy. But none of them are what I want in a president. I want an ideological conservative with a plan to shrink the size and role of government in my life. I don't know if that's Cruz, but I know it ain't Trump.

163 posted on 04/12/2016 7:34:13 PM PDT by dead
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To: fr_freak

“...The difference between them and Trump is that the rest (except Carson) spent serious time trying to polish their public persona, in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY THAT ACTORS PRACTICE THEIR LINES.”
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Many fine posts in this thread (including the one about Wisconsin) but this is among the best! I think you have nailed it. That’s why Trump so easily dispatched his challengers. Most were acting, reading talking points from a notebook they have read from in front of the mirror for months, or years.
Trump had no script. It totally flummoxed them all.

I still have this picture of Jeb looking imploringly at the moderators for help, with this panic stricken look on his face, when Trump actually attacked him as weak and low energy. This pampered guy had NEVER been spoken to like that in his life, and his reaction was sheer terror and disbelief. And he never went over 2%.


164 posted on 04/12/2016 7:37:12 PM PDT by The Continental Op
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To: Bishop_Malachi

GA really hasn’t had anybody good since Lester G. Maddox, who called Jimmuh Carter “the most dishonest man I ever met.” And Zell Miller worked for Lester Maddox.


165 posted on 04/12/2016 7:38:08 PM PDT by Theodore R. (I shudder to think what the American people will do on November 8, 2016.)
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To: fr_freak
Whether he is a clown or not, Trump seems like the only one that a regular Joe would want to sit down and have a beer with. It's not because he is some God-like genius, but because he doesn't seem to have the multiple layers of subterfuge that define virtually every other politician. Perhaps that's why the reaction to Trump by some is so visceral - some people DEMAND to be bamboozled. Rather than accept a flawed but capable man, some people would rather be willingly deceived to believe their candidate is perfect and above everyone else.

That is very spot on.

CGato

166 posted on 04/12/2016 7:44:44 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Cruz is disliked and mistrusted by all his associates almost without exception. (Google it). THERE HAS TO BE A REASON FOR THIS. Perhaps a few are jealous, but all the rest? Something is VERY wrong here.
He comes off as precisely what he is: an unattractive, slimy, lying,conniving, cheating Canadian LAWYER with no charisma whatsoever.

Just WHAT are Cruz’ qualification for POTUS??
He is a junior Senator with almost no experience or credentials at all.
WHAT HAS HE DONE AS A MERE JUNIOR SENATOR FROM TEXAS?? What has he done - except compile one of the worst attendance records and voting records in the Senate? (research his senate attendance and how he has voted)

Ted Cruz CANNOT win- against Hillary OR Bernie. They will make a laughing stock of him. THEY WILL DESTROY HIM!

How did he even get on the ballot? How did he arrive at his present status?
IT IS PLAIN TO SEE THAT HE HAS SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE ESTABLISHMENT IN HIS QUEST FOR wealth and POWER.

What about the Texans who elected the junior senator? They expected him to show in the senate and perform the duties that he promised to get elected- instead, he’s off running for POTUS while still on senate payroll!
Clearly, has sold out to the establishment.

On the other hand, we have Donald Trump- a brilliant businessman and CEO who has heard the angry voices of We The People; that we a fed up with the corruption in Washington, the Obama administration and of being ignored.
He is one of us.
HE HAS DECIDED TO STEP IN AND CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF THIS BELOVED COUNTRY WHICH IS ON THE BRINK OF DESTRUCTION-THANKS TO OBAMA AND HIS PUPPET MASTERS.
HE IS OUR VOICE.

As a brilliant business man and CEO, Donald knows how to run the country and will surround himself with equally brilliant advisors per his cabinet and others.
What has Cruz ever run- except his lying mouth?
WHAT has he EVER accomplished?? WHAT?

He is constantly bloviating about what a great ‘constitutional lawyer’ he is, making the usual GOPe promises that he has no intention of keeping because he has been bought and paid for by the establishment- and crucifying Donald.

OUR MUCH LONGED FOR REVOLUTION IS HERE.
We have, at last, a pit bull FIGHTER is is owned by no one, a fighter who will listen to us, a fighter who is not crippled by PC, but says what has long needed to be said, attacks those whom no one has had the guts to attack- and will not back down, a fighter who will clean up the corruption in our government caused by the Marxist/Muslim.

We have a fighter who understands the urgency to seal the border, stop illegal invaders who are bankrupting our country through welfare- and stop the colonization of America by the thousands upon thousands of dangerous unvetted ‘refugees’ that Obama has imported. (colonization by Muslims to eventually overthrow our constitution and make Sharia law the law of the land- just as the Koran commands them to do. Just as Obama planned from the beginning))

As for Donald not being able to defeat criminal Hillary (or Bernie, the avowed Socialist), that’s almost laughable.
Not crippled by PC, he knows all the dirt on criminal Hillary and Socialist Bernie.
BEING NON CRIPPLED BY PC, HE WILL BRUTALLY DESTROY THEM WITH NO MERCY. There is NO WAY he would let either defeat him.

Donald is our last hope to save our beloved America.
He is our last hope to build up our defenses which have purposefully been greatly diminished by Obama in preparation for eventual Muslim take over.
He will help our poor veterans who are dying of neglect.
He will seal the border and deport dangerous illegal aliens.
HE WILL REGAIN OUR ALLIES WHOM OBAMA HAS TURNED AGAINST US.
HE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!


167 posted on 04/12/2016 7:46:04 PM PDT by patriot08 (5th generation Texan ...(girl type))
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To: kiryandil; onyx; Jim Robinson; Lazamataz; jimbo123; exit82; CottonBall

I was upset about the antics too. For a minute. We Conservatives DONT LOOK BACK.

We learn and move on! He has learned, gotten a much better team AND WILL get 1237!!

Things that are unfair have happened. Life’s unfair.

The difference between a dem and a conservative is we don’t hide in corners crying “poor me. life’s unfair.”

As the Godfather said “YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!!”

That’s what we all need to do and GET THIS THING DONE!!

If he does not win outright before the convention, I PROMISE I am going to Cleveland, head injury issues or not.

Who’s with me!!!! I know it’s a lot easier for me because I don’t have children.

I would send this to more but don’t know how!


168 posted on 04/12/2016 7:48:37 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: LibFreeUSA
Thank you. Yes. Many Freepers do, and that’s one of the many reasons why many of them are still STUCK on ‘Cruz Control’.... Hate to be so blunt, but really.....if they would only get a mind of their own and shake of the ‘knee jerk’ mindset that Cruz is some sort of conservative god.

I was watching the Still Report on Youtube awhile back and he interviewed a person that had quit the Ted Cruz campaign. He was a campaign insider and what I bolded was almost exactly what he said of the people inside the campaign act like as well. It has made me wonder at times if a few of these Cruz supporters here are one in the same.

CGato

169 posted on 04/12/2016 7:53:23 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

The other person said there was no comparisons so I gave him one. That doesn’t mean I think they are exactly the same or even close. As a kid, Ronald Reagan was one of my first political heroes back in the day so I do understand Reagan.

Trump has never been a politician. I do like a lot of what he stands for as a politician. I’ve read from his friends and people that worked for him that he is the real deal and will stand up for what he says.

If he does what he says he will do, that will be good for our country and for Constitutional conservatism going forward.

The monstrous mess this country is in is going to take much time to get it back on track but if Trump is successful it will be a good start.

CGato


170 posted on 04/12/2016 8:03:08 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: sargon
It's as if they're doing everything they possibly can to subvert that process.

Yep, since they haven't been able to ruin Trump's appeal to the voters in the primaries, they've adopted the he can't win in November meme almost as a last resort. It's about all they've got left to use.

171 posted on 04/12/2016 8:16:33 PM PDT by Will88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I Remember clearly the media saying the same things about Ronald Reagan that they are saying about Trump, that he was stupid, didn’t know anything, was just a TV/Movie personality.


172 posted on 04/12/2016 8:16:35 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: sargon

So you don’t know, and instead just resort to a personal attack. It’s a legitimate question, Trump supporters claim he owes no one because he’s self funded, he won’t be able to do that in the general election. He will need over a billion dollars. If he doesn’t get money from the special interests, do you think he can raise over a billion dollars in just 3 months from small donors?


173 posted on 04/12/2016 8:18:34 PM PDT by Dstorm ( Cruz 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I rember all the arguments the media used against Regan. The arguments are similar to the ones used against Trump. That said, Trump is no Regan. And so far Trump’s debate performance has been pretty bad. The thought of a one on one debate Trump vs Someone that has studied the issues, i don’t think Trump would do well at all. Of course Trump could be sandbagging. I like to think that but I don’t really believe it. Even So... I disagree with the article. Trump can win if nominated.


174 posted on 04/12/2016 8:19:24 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Will88
Yep, since they haven't been able to ruin Trump's appeal to the voters in the primaries, they've adopted the he can't win in November meme almost as a last resort. It's about all they've got left to use.

Yes, and that propaganda tool of theirs is becoming less and less convincing: Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in statistical dead heat in NBC poll showing close Nov. match-up

So much for that argument. Not that such polls are useful as anything other than propaganda, but at least it's honest to admit that. The failing and flailing GOPe/Cruz fanboy crowd likes to cite such polls like they're the gospel truth, believe it or not!

What will the next hysterically empty argument be for the Trump-haters? They're running kind of low on quality articles, but at least they're making up for it with the sheer quantity of GOPe spam that they're posting...

175 posted on 04/12/2016 8:24:44 PM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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To: Dstorm
So you don’t know, and instead just resort to a personal attack. It’s a legitimate question, Trump supporters claim he owes no one because he’s self funded, he won’t be able to do that in the general election. He will need over a billion dollars.

If Donald Trump ends up needing donors, he'll get donors. It's that simple. There will be no dearth.

BTW, opining that a question is silly somehow constitutes a "personal attack"?

176 posted on 04/12/2016 8:37:10 PM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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To: sargon

9.26 million a day, from small donors?. And yeah I took your opinion as a personal attack, because I asked the question in good faith, and you decided to try and belittle me instead of what you just posted.


177 posted on 04/12/2016 9:15:16 PM PDT by Dstorm ( Cruz 2016)
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To: Dstorm
Alright, sorry for the snark. You know how it gets around here.

Seriously, though, between his own resources and asking for money from the public, if necessary, I'm pretty sure Trump can do whatever he needs to in the way of funding.

And he'd still be able to avoid being bought out by big money donors who insist on influence and access in exchange for their support.

I certainly hope that Donald Trump doesn't underestimate what it will take to run a competitive and ultimately successful general election race. Trying to run a Presidential general election campaign "on the cheap" would be a bad idea...

178 posted on 04/12/2016 9:23:58 PM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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To: dead
I want an ideological conservative with a plan to shrink the size and role of government in my life. I don't know if that's Cruz, but I know it ain't Trump.

Well, how about a pragmatic conservative with a plan to shrink the size and role of government in your life?

Methinks thou doth protest too much if you think that Donald Trump won't try to shrink the size and role of government. Donald Trump certainly knows that's necessary in the regulatory/business world in most cases, and the same should be true for individuals: maximum options and empowerment.

179 posted on 04/12/2016 9:30:44 PM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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To: sargon

Thank you, but to raise 9 million a day for 108 days would require an operation you don’t just put in place on day 1 of the general campaign. Mr. Trump has been running his campaign without investing in infrastructure. Questions to ponder.


180 posted on 04/12/2016 10:00:29 PM PDT by Dstorm ( Cruz 2016)
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