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Happy San Jacinto Day Texas
Texas State Historical Society ^ | 8/21/1836 | General Sam Houston

Posted on 04/21/2016 4:52:09 AM PDT by GregoTX

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To: fella

you stated: “There were a lot of Tejanos with Houston that day.”

ABSOLUTELY. They were at the Alamo and at San Jacinto!


21 posted on 04/21/2016 6:58:52 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: GregoTX
The next time the Reconquistas get in your face, tell them you have two words for them:

San.
Jacinto.

Then tell them you've got two more:

Guadaloupe.
Hidalgo.

They're even Spanish words, so los amigos can comprende, si?

22 posted on 04/21/2016 7:05:16 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack

“los amigos can comprende, si?”

Indeed. Let them never ever forget. We will not put up with their BS! Period.


23 posted on 04/21/2016 7:12:16 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Verginius Rufus
If no Mexican War, no War between the States.

A bridge too far there. Aside from the fact that many of the officers on both sides of the Civil War had their first taste of combat (and made their names -- or lost them) during the Mexican War, there was not the slightest causal link between the former and the latter.

Winfield Scott, the early commander of the Union armies, was a hero of Veracruz, where he was assisted by another Civil War commander, one Captain Robert E. Lee. Captain Lee also worked with a scruffy, heavy-drinking quartermaster lieutenant named Hiram Ulysses Grant (later erroneously renamed Ulysses S.). There were many others.

But to assert that the Mexican War somehow spawned the Civil War is patently absurd.

24 posted on 04/21/2016 7:16:14 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Texas Fossil

How times have changed in Texas, in the 70’s we were taught, if you are from south Texas your job is keepin the Mexicans in Mexico

If you are from north Texas,your job is keepin the Okies in Oklahoma


25 posted on 04/21/2016 7:17:51 AM PDT by advertising guy
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To: GregoTX
One of the men in the Battle was my ancestor, Jesse Walling.

In the basement of the monument is a historical archive, and some of his letters donated by the family when he passed are stored there. One of them was from Sam Houston, asking for him to bring Houston's horse and rifle because Houston had to 'travel to the east'.

Never really did figure out why Walling had them in the first place, though. LOL!

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Happy San Jacinto Day, Texas!

26 posted on 04/21/2016 7:34:42 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man.)
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To: IronJack
My reasoning was that the Mexican Cession of 1848 caused sectional passions to heat up as the planter elite sought more areas to become slave states (they had had a balance in the Senate between free states and slaves states, until California was admitted in 1850 as part of the Compromise of 1850) while the "free soil" types wanted to stop the spread of slavery to new territories.

The Gadsden Purchase of 1853 would have been larger except that the Northerners in Congress cut back the land we got from Mexico because they were afraid of another slave state being created.

Of course we can't tell how things would have turned out otherwise, whether other issues would have exacerbated the slavery issue to the point of conflict without the Mexican Cession, but it did play a key role.

27 posted on 04/21/2016 8:00:13 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: advertising guy

When I lived in Texas the issue was keeping Alaska from becoming a state, so Texas would remain the largest state. Obviously that was a long, long time ago.


28 posted on 04/21/2016 8:01:50 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Texas Fossil

I had an ancestor who was a POW during the Civil War but I don’t know where he was held. He was a Virginian but later moved to Kansas. Even though he is buried in Union Cemetery, his grave has a marker saying “Confederate Veteran.”


29 posted on 04/21/2016 8:03:56 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: GregoTX

We will need another soon. I predict my state turns purple by the 2024 election if not sooner via amnesty.


30 posted on 04/21/2016 8:36:46 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Texas Fossil

Mine has been here since 1709 and not one slave was owned.


31 posted on 04/21/2016 8:37:51 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Verginius Rufus
I think that's a stretch. But it's an interesting formative theory. I just doubt that Texas' war for independence was a war over slavery at its core. Houston, Austin, et. al. were looking for land, yes, but not necessarily agriculture modeled on the plantations of the Old South. That culture never really made it to Texas, except in the form of mass cattle and ranch holdings.

But those enterprises were not nearly as labor-intensive as cotton production, so the demand for slavery in Texas was more a cultural artifact inherited from its Southern settlers than the economic imperative it was in states like Alabama, Mississippi, and Georgia.

32 posted on 04/21/2016 9:06:40 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: expat_panama

I downloaded all 6 free ebooks... what a deal


33 posted on 04/21/2016 9:06:49 AM PDT by GregoTX
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To: GregoTX
For me the pdf format's not as convenient on my kindle as .AZW, so I did manage to change it w/ Calibre but now there are some end of line issues.  Nothing like a good history book imho so I'll keep tryin'.
34 posted on 04/21/2016 10:37:45 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: IronJack

I’ve never heard slavery offered as a reason for the Texas war for independence, but I wouldn’t be surprised if someone has suggested it...there always has to be a reason based on white supremacy, white privilege, or white evil to explain everything that happens. The eruption of Vesuvius? Caused by white privilege.


35 posted on 04/21/2016 11:00:29 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Resolute Conservative

I have ancestors who fought in the American Revolution too.


36 posted on 04/21/2016 1:23:28 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: advertising guy

I was born in TX, but have lived in NM and OK. Both have some fine people in them.

The only difference we have with OK are about Sports. (I am totally disinterested in sports)

Most of NM is not that different from TX, except Abuquerque and Santa Fe. (except for Rio Ariba county, insane)

If TX were to ever leave the US, about 1/2 of the nation would bolt with it.


37 posted on 04/21/2016 1:27:55 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Verginius Rufus

Those days and many following during Reconstruction were terrible years.


38 posted on 04/21/2016 1:51:06 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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