False logic in this question. it presumes the conditions created by the designer are the same as for the creator. Thats akin to saying that the conditions inside a petri dish apply to the experimenter outside the dish. Using secular concepts, Prior to the Big Bang Matter, energy and time as we perceive it did not exist. The Creator arguably is of that environment whatever it is. Thus the concept of origin would be very different then what we here in the petri dish can perceive.
it’s like this. Your entire logical basis is the silly notion the high complexity requires a designer. If you assert this, then it logically follows that the very high complexity of the designer requires a more complex designer. That is logically inescapable unless you simply want to dodge the issue by resorting to some miracle. It matters not a whit what initial conditions might have been since the logic still applies. You can’t talk your way out of this corner you’ve painted yourself into.
That’s mythology, not logic but I’ve come to expect no more in this discussion.