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1 posted on 04/22/2016 10:01:15 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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The earlier you start investing for retirement the longer it has to grow. Unless the government takes it for your own safety.


2 posted on 04/22/2016 10:02:25 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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47 and wife has the (much) bigger 401k.

i’m in a lot of trouble :)


3 posted on 04/22/2016 10:02:38 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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Get a government job when you’re 25 retire on six figure income when you’re 50.

Simple.


4 posted on 04/22/2016 10:04:27 AM PDT by JPJones ( You can't help the working class by paying the non-working class.)
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"Compound interest"

Doesn't do much for you when interest rates are so low, or when 401k's lose 5% or more per year, rather than gaining 5%+.

5 posted on 04/22/2016 10:05:34 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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Get a Roth? Good lord, no. You’ll be paying taxes on the money before it’s invested. Get a regular fund and when you retire, structure your mandated withdrawals such that your income is below the bar for attracting income tax. Your withdrawal will be tax-free, and the money that went into your fund instead of paying income taxes back then will have been increasing your investment value over time, rather than coming back to you in tax returns you might not even get.


7 posted on 04/22/2016 10:08:25 AM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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Most important one is contributing enough in your 401(k) to get the full company match. Otherwise, you are literally leaving money on the table.

Here's what NOT to do. Take out loans against your 401(k). Yes, you are paying yourself back with interest and so it sounds smart. But you are reducing the size of your paycheck (to pay it back) and will be subject to heavy penalties if you get laid off from your job and are unable to make the lump sum payment to pay it off all at once.

8 posted on 04/22/2016 10:08:55 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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The ship has already sailed on this one for me. I’ll be working a long time.


9 posted on 04/22/2016 10:09:26 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Compound interest is most powerful when it has a longer term in which to work its magic...

Yeah, at current interest rates, uh, maybe when I'm 567 1/2...

11 posted on 04/22/2016 10:10:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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You should check these items off your to-do list by 40 if you want to retire with enough money in the bank.

Alternatively, vote Democrat. Then, you can have fun going to "college" until you're 50, then retire comfortably on your ADHD or similar "disability". The government will take care of all your needs such as a free Obamaphone, Internet, housing, Obamacare, Food Stamps, and so on.

13 posted on 04/22/2016 10:11:29 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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finance experts say you should do the following 10 things prior to blowing out the candles on your 40th birthday cake.

The 11th thing - get a job and work your way up the experience ladder. Too many lazy young people, flitting from job to job because it doesn't easily give them lots of money for little work. I saw this in my twenties with some friends. They were more interested in goofing off and partying, when they got jobs it didn't last more than a month. My wife and I married young, and started saving in our 20s, put us way ahead of the others. Now we're in our mid-60s and very comfortable. Those friends, not so much at all because they didn't save until very late in life after 40.

15 posted on 04/22/2016 10:13:37 AM PDT by roadcat
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A worker turning 40 today has 25 years to prepare for retirement by age 65.

The writer appears to be cribbing from something written some years ago. If I had been able to work straight through from 40 to 65, my retirement would be quite comfortable. But throw in a company failing, a couple of layoffs for economic reasons, and a stretch of underemployment, and I realize he's writing fantasy, not advice.

20 posted on 04/22/2016 10:19:25 AM PDT by PAR35
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Advice from my perspective:

Do not make the mistake of thinking that the future will be very similar to the recent past:

Not the stock market - it may or may not. It may have another very severe decline or it may grow exponentially, or both. Like musical chairs, it will depend on how close to the retirement chair you are, when the music stops.

Not banks - we are in a new era where the FDIC cannot cover more than 2% of deposits. This is why they have adopted the Bank Bail In provisions. I think the really smart people are setting up some financial reserves in an offshore bank account before capital controls are established here.

Few have pensions any more. If they do, they should consider whether theirs will be among those that are poorly funded and subject to a haircut.

Consider something outside the market that has cash flow. This includes many kinds of real estate and other categories of investment.

I have a friend who invested $335,000 in a flock of egg-laying chickens two and a half years ago. He was getting a nice dividend. Chickens lay eggs even while you sleep. After the bird flu hit out west, egg prices went up. Corn prices are depressed. He has made approximately $5 million. Yes, that much. I asked for some details about the flock. He has never seen them personally. Despite the windfall, he was making a great 15% cash flow before the bird flu hit. On his original investment, that is +$50k per year.

Put together a couple non-stock market investments like that and you have created a pension.

I could give other examples of cash flow investments that do not depend on greater fools to enter the stock market.

I think the words of Scripture got this right:

"Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth." Eccl. 11:2

22 posted on 04/22/2016 10:20:22 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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DO NOT GET MARRIED!!!! I would have been retired 10 years ago easily if I had not gotten spent into near bankruptcy by lazy, parasitic wives (x2).

I know, I'm a terrible judge of character. But that doesn't mean I should empower a pair of leechettes to exploit my trusting nature.

23 posted on 04/22/2016 10:21:28 AM PDT by IronJack
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The patriarchs and the prophets didn’t retire. They labored until they died.

God does not promise us a bunch of indolent years sitting on our asses.

The search within Christendom for some sort of golden years is the early onset of name it and claim it prosperity gospel.


25 posted on 04/22/2016 10:22:28 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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Here's my list:
1. Live within your means.
2. Marry only once.
3. Blame only yourself for your problems.
4. Rely on nobody but yourself to make your dreams come true.
5. Remember that gratitude is the secret of happiness.

33 posted on 04/22/2016 10:27:18 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("People who hate hate now appear to be more hateful than people who merely hate." ~Dennis Miller)
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I think investing in a home is a key component. By “investing” I don’t mean using goofy interest-free or variable rate loans and expecting to make a killing in 2 years. I mean getting a home sized for your family, using a conventional mortgage... and STAYING in it for a long time so you can ride out the market ups and downs and have a real asset to cash in on when the kids are out and it’s time to downsize.


34 posted on 04/22/2016 10:27:35 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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bkmk


37 posted on 04/22/2016 10:29:04 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Nix the 15 year mortgage, and the life insurance policy stuff is only good the life insurance salesman.

High inflation always benefits the borrower. Just look at the $15 minimum wage and the level of government debt, and use your own brain to see that we will have strong inflation for many years to come. Right now we have an interesting combination of high real inflation and low fixed mortgage interest rates. DW and I are retired already and have 30 year fixed mortgages on our house and rental properties. The payments can not increase, but the rents we collect sure can...

While we worked, we had employer-supplied life insurance which we maxed out in case of a disaster, but now that we are retired, there is no need for life insurance.

The advice few financial planners will give is that rental property is a great retirement investment. Rents go up with inflation, but mortgage payments don’t. Sure, taxes can increase, but the fraction of the rents that we get to keep increases every year.


42 posted on 04/22/2016 10:36:20 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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I’m starting to think retirement is not really “American” or biblical.

I don’t read much of founders era folks retiring, they seemed to keep right on working in one capacity or other until truly unable to work, or death. many gave all they had during their life to fund the start of USA or colleges or such, didn’t ever think of just playing golf or such all day.

I think retiring is a man conceived desire, but I think it’s really rooted in selfishness. I know so many in”retirement” that are living in nice homes but rubbing pennies (so they say) to keep afloat. What is the point of that? Definitely able to work in some capacity.

Years ago as a teen I worked with senior citizens who worked seasonally/part time. They liked the extra income and interaction with people and were so less stressed than average workers trying to work toward retirement.

Where I live now, i see huge billboards for luxury retirement - their catch phrase:

“retire like you mean it” LOL I got news for that builder:
God doesn’t ever tell us to retire, except maybe when He calls us home.


64 posted on 04/22/2016 11:30:57 AM PDT by b4me
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Sneak across the border then come back as an illegal?

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(That is if the Mexicans don’t shot you. Try reading their immigration policy)


88 posted on 04/22/2016 3:03:04 PM PDT by patriot08 (5th generation Texan ...(girl type) Run the slimy Canadian lawyer= HELLO HILLARY!)
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