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To: cba123

Stealth is retarded. Upgrade F-15s and enjoy lording over the skies. The F-15se makes sense, but stealth is a nettle of hardware vs software. Software to allow radar to “see” what it already picks up grows at an exponential rate.

Airframes fly for decades. So unless you can build an airframe so advanced you can defeat every AAA radar software for decades to come, you will always lose every single time. That is why you do not build an F-35 that is defenseless without stealth. Because essentially in 5 or 10 years it wont have any stealth left at all.


3 posted on 04/23/2016 10:10:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: DesertRhino

Build another 500 A-10s, another 500 F-15s, another 500 F-16s, and upgrade the avionics on the current inventory of B-52s.

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4 posted on 04/23/2016 10:14:41 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: DesertRhino

I don’t know about that.

Again I am just a civilian without military experience.

But the F-22 seems to this American, like the best jet out there for the entire next generation.


5 posted on 04/23/2016 10:18:45 PM PDT by cba123 (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: DesertRhino

Airframes fly for decades.

The F15 has been flying for decades. Some have come apart in mid air. It is a great plane but they won’t last for ever.
The raptor is an amazing aircraft. It is capable of unbelievable air superiority and should have never been shut down.


8 posted on 04/23/2016 11:10:13 PM PDT by outofsalt ( I identify as a Cruz supporter)
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To: DesertRhino
"Upgrade F-15s and enjoy lording over the skies."

F-22s whup the F-15s every time out.
Not just geek data, I've seen the mock F-15/F-22 dogfights over the skies of Okinawa - you could see the F-22s turn much sharper than the F-15s they were completing with.

28 posted on 04/24/2016 5:19:33 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: DesertRhino

I see the Boeing marketing team is here hyping its outdated planes. Why not just promote the P-26?

(You do know Boeing made the wings, avionics, and part of the fuselage, don’t you?)


29 posted on 04/24/2016 6:28:27 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: DesertRhino

“Stealth is retarded. Upgrade F-15s and enjoy lording over the skies. The F-15se makes sense, but stealth is a nettle of hardware vs software.”

Stealth has nothing to do with software.

“Software to allow radar to “see” what it already picks up grows at an exponential rate.”

You don’t understand the basics of stealth. Stealthy planes reduce the return from radar emission. This reduces the range of acquisition. It is true that longer wavelength radars do better at picking up stealthy aircraft, but those radars can’t be carried on aircraft or missiles. Regardless, stealth reduces the range at which radar guided missiles can acquire a target, which inherently gives stealth aircraft an advantage against those weapons.

“Airframes fly for decades. So unless you can build an airframe so advanced you can defeat every AAA radar software for decades to come, you will always lose every single time.”

Ah, so that is why the Russians and Chinese are also scrambling to build stealthy aircraft? No, it’s just that you’re incorrect.

“That is why you do not build an F-35 that is defenseless without stealth.”

The F-35 is no more “defenseless without stealth” than the F-16. What are you talking about?

“Because essentially in 5 or 10 years it wont have any stealth left at all.”

As stated above, that’s incorrect.


32 posted on 04/24/2016 12:02:06 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Cruz or Trump '16! JUST NOT A DEM!!!)
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