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To: going hot
Although, years ago, I wondered what kind of prez he would make, as a fleeting thought.

I honestly lose sleep over it. Nobody knows who he is except himself. IMHO he is a loose cannon.

But I'd better hold my tongue so as not to draw the attention of the Zot masters.

16 posted on 04/26/2016 9:05:43 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: P-Marlowe
It is time to turn the whole effing thing on it's head.

Too long we have marched in lock step, voting for what is "best for the country".

Time and time again we have supported the one chosen for us to support.

Look where we are, now.

Can you honestly say you will lose more sleep over Trump, than the status quo?

Do you really assume that Mr. Cruz or Mr. Kasich or whomever the RNC shove down your throat will allow you to get a better night's sleep?

Perhaps, just perhaps, it is time to flush the whole enchilada, and start fresh, with a lover of the country, warts and all, and see what comes down the pike.

D Trump is not the savior, nor the fixer of all that ails us, but he is in fact a fresh face, (albeit mouthing same same for a while)and actually wants to put the USA first.

What is the problem with that?

27 posted on 04/26/2016 9:15:03 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: P-Marlowe
I completely understand your position. We gave to Cruz when he first announced. He is a good guy, despite what some here say. Cruz is truly the person for whom we'd vote.

But, when Trump stuck to his non-PC words and stuck to his non-PC stances, it really made us take another look. Later, when Cruz admitted on a talk show that he didn't push back on Trump “for fear of becoming roadkill,” that really showed me he could not take the heat. By that point, and since, Cruz has glommed on to Trump's more difficult positions, like kicking every illegal out and building the wall, but Cruz only did so after Trump pushed them and took the arrows. Again, Cruz showed he won't lead on sensitive positions.

Cruz is a well-intentioned follower. I would normally be ecstatic to vote for him. But with the GOPe and PC speech in the way, I realize these factors must be broken down, first. Cruz has no way to effectively do that, but Trump does.

Cruz will be a great choice for a different time, and with him, as a man, being demonstrably different and better.

Cruz 2.0 will be a formidable contender, indeed.

44 posted on 04/26/2016 9:30:04 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: P-Marlowe
But I'd better hold my tongue so as not to draw the attention of the Zot masters.

You're laying it on a little thick. To get zotted from this community, you have to make a distinct effort. Yes, there are some third rails not to touch, but they are eminently logical at this stage in the process.

Squelching blatant propaganda which destroys any possibility of unity is a necessary task at this juncture.

Indeed, if Jim Robinson didn't make some effort to counter the constant Cruz fanboy propaganda, then he wouldn't be much of a Trump supporter.

Political campaigns are wars of propaganda, and Ted Cruz has lost this propaganda war.

A nobody is clean here. There can be no claim that any side hasn't engaged in propaganda to try to help advance their candidate.

But that phase is moving rapidly into the past.

So I don't see you somehow getting yourself accidentally zotted, unless your willingness to support of Donald Trump as the nominee isn't sincere in the first place.

I don't think anyone particularly enjoys engaging in a "war of words" with their fellow conservatives who support a different candidate.

But intellectual honesty and a sense of fairness should dictate that, at some point, reality can be accepted.

I will state once again for the record, that Ted Cruz was my first choice as a candidate at the time that Donald Trump announced his candidacy.

However, due to several actions that Cruz took, which demonstrated a lack of principle and leadership, and, conversely, showed him to be a naked opportunist who embraced Machiavellian tactics, and was even willing to jump into bed with the GOPe, Ted Cruz ended up losing me along the way, and Donald Trump won my support during the same time period.

This was not an accident, or a mistake, or something that wasn't deserved, IMHO. Frankly, Ted Cruz's egotism and narcissism, coupled with his amoral ambition, did his campaign in, in the eyes of more than a few former and potential supporters.

For instance, my Mom, who would be the last type of Republican to jump aboard the Trump train, liked Ted Cruz less and less, the more she saw of him.

That Cruz made some significant missteps cannot be denied. Perhaps Donald Trump, having already been in the public eye for decades, enjoyed an advantage here. Cruz was still being introduced to the electorate, and he really didn't end up making all that great of an impression. Essentially, only staunch, nearly fanatical ideological purists seem to have stuck with him, and many purists ultimately indeed did not.

I'd like to hear some thoughtful analysis from current or former Cruz supporters as to what they think went wrong. I don't think it's fair or accurate to just externalize everything onto Donald Trump. I'd like to read some honest assessments that avoid such shortcuts.

Peace.

Vote Trump

68 posted on 04/26/2016 9:58:53 PM PDT by sargon (Cruz should've focused on EARNING people's votes instead of STEALING delegates that represent them.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Nobody knows who he is except himself. IMHO he is a loose cannon.

IMHO, he might be a loose cannon.

I lose sleep too, but only about the possibility of the Clinton Criminal Enterprises finishing the job that the Muslim Manchurian Candidate began, and continues getting away with.

The only way to save our country, the way it was originally created is with the New Total Socialism administered by the only megalomaniacs who can "do it right."

Political correctness and mindless egalitarianism created the perfect combination for their weapon of mass destruction.

But only if we allow it to continue...

60% OF DEM VOTERS IN PA THINK HILLARY IS HONEST AND TRUSTWORTHY.

The idiocracy finally prevails.

75 posted on 04/26/2016 10:07:56 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: P-Marlowe
I honestly lose sleep over it. Nobody knows who he is except himself.

I'm sorry you're losing sleep. But I lose sleep over the prospect of Hitlery in oval office.

Just ask yourself, how could he have built the business that he has built and be a loose cannon?

From what I've read about him over the years he's an obsessive planner. He plans and backup plans and backup plans for the backup plans. Obviously I don't know this for a fact but that fits his pattern of success.

104 posted on 04/27/2016 3:40:05 AM PDT by CapitalistCrusader
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