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Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest
AssociatedPress ^ | May 5, 2016, 8:31 PM ET | Jennifer Sinco Kelleher

Posted on 05/06/2016 9:57:00 PM PDT by LucyT

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To: little jeremiah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm8IIyjNwWw

http://beforeitsnews.com/obama-birthplace-controversy/2014/10/bombshell-maui-police-department-loretta-fuddys-original-cause-of-death-is-drowning-2483294.html?currentSplittedPage=0

“...Folks, let this information sink in. The Medical Examiner found credible signs in Loretta Fuddy’s lungs and other organs that were consistent with drowning, made a “death by drowning” finding, and then someone covered up that finding by changing the cause of death to “acute cardiac arrhythmia due to hyperventilation”.”

READ CAREFULLY: THE EIGHTEEN MINUTE WINDOW


161 posted on 08/18/2016 3:37:45 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thank you.


162 posted on 08/18/2016 4:26:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Nifster
You are so ignorant. The NTSB has some of the finest aviation investigators that exist. The Pan Am flight proved that....they hampered NTSB and put FBI in charge of TWA 800.

OK, now that you have descended from the heavens to correct my perception, and heal me...I am no longer ignorant.

That’s where one gets the cirruption

But there's one thing I'm still ignorant about...what the hell is "cirruption"?

163 posted on 08/18/2016 4:59:29 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs and RINOs......same thing.)
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To: Fred Nerks

There were five different COD’s in the apparent cover up.On one of them “drowning” the local ME closed her case almost immediately and then an hour later he reopened it.


164 posted on 08/18/2016 5:11:48 PM PDT by rodguy911
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To: rodguy911

Well, I guess the ‘drowning’ might have been a little worrisome considering the last person to be with her when she was alive wasn’t interviewed, from that I can make out.


165 posted on 08/18/2016 5:23:29 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum)
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To: rodguy911; little jeremiah; WildHighlander57; Brown Deer
Read this segment of the article:

THE EIGHTEEN MINUTE WINDOW

...There were roughly eighteen minutes between Fuddy’s life and death. After being rescued Yamamoto, told the Reverend Killilea 39 that “…he helped Loretta into her life jacket, and he held her hand for some time,” the priest said. “They were all floating together, and she let go and there was no response from her.” This implies that Fuddy and Yamamoto were still with the group when she died. But this scenario does not fit with witness accounts...

166 posted on 08/18/2016 5:30:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum)
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To: butterdezillion

Omg Butter, I had no idea. Will be praying. How old is your husband? And is your little girl OK?

There are no words. I admire you and I am so sorry.


167 posted on 08/18/2016 5:34:28 PM PDT by Yaelle (Sorry, Mr. Franklin. We've been extremely careless with our Republic.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks. There is so much wrong and weird with the entire plane crash and Fuddy that it’s mind boggling. Especially for me.


168 posted on 08/18/2016 5:42:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
"someone covered up that [drowning] finding"

As far as the world knows, whatever covering-up may have been involved was unknown, because both were announced by that same Medical Examiner (ME) in her final report, which came out about month after the crash.

But it gets worse instead of better.

At the end of the autopsy session, the Cause of Death (COD) was declared by the ME to be drowning, pending toxicology reports. A drowning determination as a COD is implicitly a positive result based on physical evidence, not a logical elimination of some number of other possible CsOD. To make a drowning determination, there must have been evidence of the inhalation of ocean water (in this case) accompanied by consequent oxygen-starvation of the brain (of an actual person) to make that assertion.

That positive determination, once declared to have been made, should have overridden all other CsOD, unless there was further positive evidence in the toxicological results or while possibly noticing further evidence from viewing the body during the autopsy. If toxicology results were to have been returned with physical evidence of drugs, alcohol or poison, for example, such results might have overridden a less complex drowning COD determination, but without such further evidence, the positive drowning determination would remain and could not simply disappear from the autopsy report, even if an examiner were willing to allow himself or herself to be overridden by a COD based on third-party report.

To allow a declared COD of drowning awaiting toxicology reports to be vacated in favor of arrhythmia as the COD is implicitly to recognize the original drowning COD claim was false. But what could have happened in the hours, days or weeks before an ME vacates his or her previous drowning determination to ultimately favor a third-party-influenced determination?

Since an arrhythmia leaves no physical signs of its having occurred, and since the death in question was not contemporaneously witnessed by any competent medical professional, it should not be possible to have sufficient confidence in any other determination that would be unaccompanied by physical evidence so as to override completely and vacate an evidence-based drowning determination that the medical examiner implicitly said she had made by the end of the hands-on, eyes-on autopsy.

Allowing inferences based on second-hand reports from untrained lay-persons that manifest no physical evidence to override an albeit-tentative COD, but one nonetheless based on tangible evidence seems to imply the examiner has been swayed by one or more factors beyond the stated evidence, which was not claimed to be any physical evidence observed while viewing the body or on lab tests.   If a medical examiner were somehow convinced of the validity of one or more lay-persons’ second-hand report(s) in such a case, one might conceivably (to stretch that word very thin) be led to say an inferred arrhythmia may well have caused or led to the drowning, but not that the concomitant drowning did not happen!

In this case, the arrhythmia as the COD took the place of drowning with drowning no longer being even mentioned. --FAIL!

169 posted on 08/18/2016 6:49:49 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx

Well, I guess it’s pretty difficult to convince anyone she drowned while wearing a life vest and while someone is holding her hand. So the jacket had to be too small, she had to be too fat, she had to have an unreported/untreated heart condition...and anything else that can be dreamt up. Everything but the obvious:
She got out of the aircraft, was seen alive and not in any distress, and then suddenly she’s dead, from three different causes. She just drifted away with the tide...
All that fancy legal language aside. And how darn convenient. Just what did Fuddy find out?


170 posted on 08/18/2016 7:48:43 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Fuddy was necessary to force somebody at the HDOH to forge records so they would match the computer database manipulation that was being done to try to get Obama’s BC# to “fit” even though it DOESN’T fit.

Dennis Montgomery’s testimony directly related to the database manipulation that Fuddy ended up having to cover for.We already know the database manipulation happened because the HDOH worker looked in the database and legally responded to my UIPA request by saying that Virginia Sunahara had no birth certificate - when we know she does. Why was her BC invalidated? So BC numbers could be switched around between different people including Barack Obama?

The day after I was put in contact with Terry Lakin’s legal team, to give them my evidence that the HDOH had manipulated not only their printed birth index but also their actual database - evidence that would overcome the “presumption of regularity” (the legal presumption that government officials can be trusted, absent evidence to the contrary) and thus allow Lakin discovery of the original HDOH records for his defense - the sheathing on the wiring in my husband’s van was removed, shorting out almost all the electronics and making dangerous sparking next to the engine. Shortly thereafter my computer bit the dust with a trojan. And shortly after that Denise Lind ruled that approval by a Constitutional President is irrelevant to the lawfulness of foreign combat orders, leaving Lakin with no defense.

Fuddy was absolutely critical. Montgomery claimed to have evidence for a criminal investigation that would implicate Fuddy in the cover-up of the computer manipulations that had happened on Fukino’s watch as HDOH director - manipulations that I had already documented. The M.O. to stop me from getting my evidence into Lakin’s court-martial was to hit my husband, just like the M.O. was when they wanted me to shut up about this fake “crash” that supposedly killed Fuddy. They’ve thrown everything at Montgomery to try to shut him up and/or discredit his testimony. It was going to come down to “he said, she said”, and they did NOT want Fuddy subject to cross-examination to try to refute Montgomery. They didn’t end up having to kill either me or Montgomery because they got their “legal” puppets to subvert justice instead - with Lind throwing out the whole rule of law in the military, and with Judge Snow going on wild-goose-chases that had nothing to do with the case in which he should have recused himself anyway.

It’s a long, interconnected story, but Fuddy is absolutely critical in all this. Montgomery having the ear of Arpaio made the situation hit critical mass.

Lest anybody think I’m “crazy”, let me just remind everyone that Virginia Sunahara’s death certificate - received by her brother directly from the HDOH and certified with Onaka’s seal - has a “T.H.” (Territory of Hawaii) file number, even though it is a STATE of Hawaii death certificate. Somebody had to go out of their way to put that T.H. there instead of what was there on the actual State of Hawaii document on file. IOW, somebody wanted us to know that death certificate was forged. That’s the action of somebody on the inside who was ordered to do an illegal act and resisted. Who would have ordered them to forge that death certificate? Loretta Fuddy.

And that’s just one example of how she had to break the law to cover for the manipulated database, trying to fit in an extra person who never had a 1961 birth certificate/number. She illegally restricted access to original long-forms because it would be too hard to forge all those paper documents necessary to fudge all the numbers (to try to keep their numbering system blurry). That allowed them to do the number-fudging in the database where things can easily be switched back and forth as necessary without having to forge anything.

But she didn’t restrict access to original death certificates so they had to forge death certificates that would contain original BC#’s that would expose their numbering system. And somebody who was ordered to do the forgery left several bright red flags so we would know they did it under duress.

Fuddy was critical. And her “death” came 19 days after Zullo made it clear to the public that they were moving forward with Montgomery.


171 posted on 08/18/2016 10:30:50 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Yaelle

My husband is 53. We expect that by the time our youngest daughter graduates college he won’t know who any of us are. I hope for grandchildren someday but the chances that he will ever know his grandchildren is slim to non-existent. Our 25th wedding anniversary was in June and I struggled over whether to try to put together a celebration while he still knows I’m his wife - get his family here to see him before he slips too much more.

We don’t know the damage to the rest of the family because traditional medicine only deals with acute poisoning. That’s why this stuff can be so effective for thugs. As long as there are people telling the victims that they are paranoid, crazy, or imagining great conspiracies, you can keep them from checking anything out until the only evidence left is in the body tissues, where traditional medicine won’t do anything about it. And the people who WILL do something about it will bankrupt you in the process because they’re not in-network for insurance.

We’d have to do a spinal tap to see if our now-16-year-old daughter has elevated Alzheimers proteins. But no insurance is going to pay for that. So we don’t know. She doesn’t show signs of dementia but shows other signs so I think she may have been accidentally exposed to just some of what my husband was deliberately exposed to. What were my other kids and I exposed to? We don’t know, and probably never will.

Whatever they do to us, they can’t change the evidence that’s already been collected. Someday, before the final Judge, the truth will be known and I will be vindicated and they will be exposed. They don’t fear it at all, but my Redeemer is the only real truth and justice there is. That fact is becoming increasingly clear.


172 posted on 08/18/2016 10:52:59 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I’ll try to keep it brief. I think she would have been just as ‘critical’ IF she uncovered the hanky panky with the records that dates back to the day Virginia’s death notice appeared in the paper, the 8th August. That’s the date the document for zero was submitted and accepted by the Local Registrar, of which, iirc, there were FOUR one for each geographical region.
The reason there was no BC for Virginia might have been because a FAKE document replaced hers...and the fakers, thinking that because she died at Kapiolani, she must have been born there. But she was born at Wahiawa.
That information wasn’t available from the Death Notice.
The fake found its way through the system, ended up at the HDOH, was entered in the Kapiolani batch, and THAT resulted in the birth announcement in the newspapers.
On August 29, her death certificate was amended from the name of her father Tomio to Virginia - so they could bury her, the parents needed to produce both a birth and a death certificate.
A BC was raised for her on the same day, the 29th August, and that was 439 digits out of sequence with her birth at Waihawa.
If that is anything like what Fuddy might have uncovered, and IF she confided her findings, and IF she was intent on NOT committing perjury, she was a huge threat.
I have a sense that Fuddy was NOT a crook. She got the job because they thought she could be manipulated.

That’s my impression. And that’s all it is, an impression. I’m sorry, but I think life is too short for me to start from scratch and study this with a fine tooth comb. I wish all you the best and hope you get to the bottom of it.


173 posted on 08/18/2016 10:57:49 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum)
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To: LucyT
IF she died...

Especially when you have so many fellow cult members in Jakarta.

174 posted on 08/19/2016 2:04:19 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed,)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Jim McDoogle, in jail, the night before he was to Whitewater testify against the Clintons.


175 posted on 08/19/2016 2:10:59 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed,)
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To: rx

Red: need larger picture, showing context/ surrounding area.
Purple: need larger picture, showing context/ surrounding area.
Blue: keys head with blue ball cap; in shadow so hair looks brown.
Green: hand is that of puentes; is when he’s getting out of his seat.
Yellow: keys head with blue ball cap and his hair is in bright sunlight, can tell color.
Black: same person as in yellow.

Yellow and black is same person because he’s being jostled to left and right by the planes motion, and in the video you can see the head turning.

Post #171 shows the widths of the seats...


176 posted on 08/19/2016 2:21:33 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: rx

Correction, #171 s/b #117


177 posted on 08/19/2016 2:30:23 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: rx

Correction; pillow is actually the seat back.

Lighting changes the texture from plastic seat back headrest, to cloth pillow


178 posted on 08/19/2016 2:39:57 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Fred Nerks

No matter how you slice it, whoever forged Virginia’s death certificate put deliberate red flags in it, under duress.

And if a fake had been put in for Obama back in 1961 there would be no reason for the forged BC today. And Neil Abercrombie would not have told Mike Evans there is no BC for Obama. And Neal Palafox wouldn’t have had to be canned as HDOH Director and replaced with Fuddy, who illegally disallowed original BC’s from being seen - on a document with a creation date of the same day as Obama’s forged BC was disclosed.

Fuddy is up to her ears in the corruption, based on those pieces of evidence and more. The “verifications” received by AZ and KS Secretaries of State were not lawfully certified. They have Onaka’s signature stamp but Onaka apparently refused to seal/certify the signature because FUDDY’s seal is on them. IOW, the registrar refused to certify anything for Obama so Fuddy had to put her own stamp on those documents just so they’d have SOMETHING to give the AZ SOS, who had already been made to promise that he would put Obama’s name on the ballot as long as he received SOMETHING as a fig leaf to tell his constituents that he had asked for documentation. What they received isn’t worth diddly because Fuddy’s raised seal is by statute only allowed to accompany HER signature, which is nowhere on those “verifications”.

There is a “good guy” at the HDOH, but it is DEFINITELY not Fuddy.


179 posted on 08/19/2016 5:58:57 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: WildHighlander57

How did he lose his ponytail in the black-arrow image?


180 posted on 08/19/2016 5:58:57 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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