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To: GraceG

These issues were pretty much resolved in 1865.. Unlike the Articles of Confederation, the US Constitution is not a compact of the states, but a compact of the people of the United States. Your arguments were debated for a long time and finally settled by a horrific war. Reason suggests not repeating same.


4 posted on 05/13/2016 1:25:41 PM PDT by Cincinnatus
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To: Cincinnatus

The issue was not resolved by the Civil War.

The only issue resolved by the Civil War was: Can the North crush the South by burning, razing, and murdering?

The answer was Yes.


8 posted on 05/13/2016 1:30:10 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Cincinnatus

[ These issues were pretty much resolved in 1865.. Unlike the Articles of Confederation, the US Constitution is not a compact of the states, but a compact of the people of the United States. Your arguments were debated for a long time and finally settled by a horrific war. Reason suggests not repeating same. ]

But isn’t Holding hostage a state with say 90% of the population wanting to leave the union essentially illegal if not violating the principle of self governance?


15 posted on 05/13/2016 1:36:41 PM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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To: Cincinnatus

Your arguments were debated for a long time and finally settled by a horrific war.

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At the cost of over 600,000 lives and considerable economic devastation and debt. Was the war worth the cost? A question for the ages.


22 posted on 05/13/2016 1:39:30 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Cincinnatus

These things are never decided by laws.

They are decided by facts and events - power, money, debt, violence, common purpose or disunity.

The Roman empire was united, until corruption, debt, inflation, decline and imperial overreach made people in the provinces decide they were better off out - and the emperors could do nothing about it.


27 posted on 05/13/2016 1:41:34 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Cincinnatus

Session does not mean war. The pussies that run the Federal Government wouldn’t do a thing to stop a state from leaving. No political will and the standing Army is to small anyway.


109 posted on 05/14/2016 6:33:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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