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To: teppe; Sasparilla; Elsie; All
[Teppe to Sasparilla]: More wives? Your an idiot. Maybe you should update your 125 year old information.

Solemn Covenant: The Mormon Polygamous Passage [Book lists almost 500 Lds in post-manifesto unions] Note the Lds "prophet" "manifesto" which supposedly was to halt new polygamous arrangements, which Teppe infers, was "supposedly" "binding" as of October 6, 1890.

Yet, per Carmon Hardy's research, 220 Mormon men took about 275 additional plural wives during that 20-year period up until 1910-11 (Almost half of these men already had -- at my count -- about 112 plural wives between them before the 1890 manifesto...so the overall average was almost three wives per man).

About HALF of the 220 men Hardy lists in his appendix -- 109 to be exact -- were monogamists when the 1890 "Manifesto" was passed. IoW, they weren't used to a "polygamous lifestyle" -- and had NO reason to take on a second, third, fourth, fifth wives -- with the "manifesto" in place!!!

So, Teppe, please explain how these 220 Mormon men who took on 275 ADDITIONAL wives, didn't "update" their "information" bank as pertaining to their marriage 'ethic'?

Btw, these 275 additional wives, broke down, year-wise, as:
1910: 5
1909: 10
1908: 3
1907: 6
1906: 4
1905: 4
1904: 20
1903: 39 [this was the year Lds "prophet" Joseph F. Smith had to "lay down" Manifesto II to tell the Mormons to "stop" polygamy]
1902: 28
1901: 33
1900: 21
1899: 9
1898: 20
1897: 15
1896: 4
1895: 5
1894: 12
1893: 3
1892: 6
1891: 3
1890 between Oct. 10-->Dec: 8
TOTAL: 275 women initiated among 220 men

And precisely because over 100 additional unions were done in the 20th century, some of these plural unions did not die out until the late 1950s, with two possible families, the early 1960s.

From the BYU review article mentioned @ link above: Hardy clearly agrees with "Apostle" Marriner W. Merrill's 1891 view: "'I do Not believe the Manifesto was a revelation from God but was formulated by Prest. Woodruff and endorsed by His Councilors and the Twelve Apostles for expediency to meet the present situation of affairs in the Nation or those against the Church.'" (150).

(Well, ya know what this means...it means that IF D&C 132 is "correct" -- in a "revelation" that opened the door for Mormon polygamy...then there's BEEN NO "revelation" to really "shut it." It's just all for socio-political expediency...says both an Lds past "apostle"...and, in effect, this BYU source!!! )

And, what this also means is that the fLDS are the "only" true keepers of Joseph Smith polygamous orthodoxy! (And here we thought the Mormon fundamentalists were the "offshoot"!!!)

Why is this again relevant?

Because SOME MORMONS KEEP INSISTING THAT MORMON POLYGAMY DIED OUT IN 1890!

114 posted on 06/27/2016 7:41:50 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Because SOME MORMONS KEEP INSISTING THAT MORMON POLYGAMY DIED OUT IN 1890!

Well; this is what SLC has taught them.

Oh, and NOT to check things out for themselves away from 'approved' Mormon sources.

122 posted on 06/27/2016 8:40:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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