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To: roadcat

I’m sure she was an asset to her neighborhood and to her employer. However, from what I keep hearing about San Francisco, it’s crazy gay STD-ridden liberal, illegal immigrant criminals, etc., not to mention that it’s so close to the San Andreas fault. Can’t say that about the northern suburbs of Detroit. We get more snow than S.F. and we don’t have the mountain views and all that, but I think people must be getting more bang for their buck here in the Great Lake State.


27 posted on 06/27/2016 10:12:20 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator
Can’t say that about the northern suburbs of Detroit.

To each, their own. Or home is where the heart is, etc. You hear wrong about SF, probably like I hear bad stereotypes about Detroit being a burned out slum with half the people having fled, and all the good stuff abandoned and decayed. As for SF, much of it has been rebuilt after the 1989 earthquake. Whole new neighborhoods, a new ballpark, new transit links and a new waterfront. The gays are in decline, been leaving over the last 20 years. Being replaced by incoming techs with families of kids. Black population declined from 15 percent to less than 6 percent over last few decades. Crime is down. In most neighborhoods you see lots of baby strollers and kids in parks. The bad elements are largely confined to a few areas - Tenderloin/Civic Center, Bay View/Hunters Point and southeast corner. But even those areas, being the worst of SF, are becoming gentrified and are better than the average neighborhood in cities back east like Philadelphia and Jersey City.

A lot of transplants are here from the midwest, and vow never to go back. Mostly because of the great weather and not having to shovel snow. Plus it's easier to get a job. You're talking about an area 30 miles away from Detroit, where it's probably not as bad as Detroit. You go 10 miles away from SF and the neighborhoods are fantastic (I'm about 10 miles out). So if you're going to compare, do so in relative terms. Detroit is a hellhole, SF is not. Suburbs 30 miles out are not the core to do comparisons. As for my daughter, she left SF for the midwest; she and her husband are creating their own business there from savings - land and buildings are cheaper. But I'm sure she'll miss the venues of California life.

31 posted on 06/27/2016 1:25:10 PM PDT by roadcat
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