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Delegate Call (FREEP OPPORTUNITY) [update at post 38]
Delegates Unbound ^

Posted on 07/07/2016 11:54:25 AM PDT by Hildy

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41 posted on 07/13/2016 1:51:47 PM PDT by maggief
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To: betty boop

Representatives in a republic are sent with an understanding that they will make decisions on known and unknown items to come before them. They will exercise their best judgment on the unknown within a range of principles their constituents understood them to embrace.
A delegate elected in a primary has no mandate for individual discretion beyond the precise rules for their state under which they were elected. States vary and even different delegates within states vary, but their mission is spelled out.


42 posted on 07/13/2016 5:09:39 PM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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A delegate elected in a primary has no mandate for individual discretion beyond the precise rules for their state under which they were elected. States vary and even different delegates within states vary, but their mission is spelled out.

Some members of the Rules Committee, sitting today and tomorrow, seem to be unaware of the above. Evidently they feel they are fully empowered to make new rules, effective at this Convention. This would allow the Rules Committee to completely override the States' delegate rules. This is revolutionary. I don't think their argument that it is entirely fitting that Delegates "vote their conscience" will carry the day. We'll see.

43 posted on 07/14/2016 11:34:50 AM PDT by betty boop
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They just lost on rule 12. What do they really want?


44 posted on 07/14/2016 1:32:55 PM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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I dunno. Which "rule 12" do you mean? In general, "rule 12" (a federal legal standard I gather) seems to have something to do with the timely presentation of evidence. Or something to that effect. I'm no lawyer, so I really don't know.

As for what these people -- the "vote your conscience" people -- really want -- well, they already told you what they want. They want to stop Trump in his tracks, even if that means we are saddled with Hillary Clinton for our president for the next 4 or 8 years. And even if we have to destroy the Republican Party to do it.

Talk about hatred poisoning/warping the mind!!!

I just think these people are nutz. So I'm glad they didn't get what they wanted.

45 posted on 07/15/2016 3:43:46 PM PDT by betty boop
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Rule 12 was the rule that was imposed by Mitt Romney to end any hopes for Ron Paul in the 2012 election. It required that any party nominee must have won at least 8 states even to be considered by the convention. The anti-Trumper’s fight for this rule says that they really didn’t like Ted Cruz either, since he was the only other primary candidate who had won the minimum number of states. One still wonders who they had in mind to nominate. The bitterness of Jeb Bush the last few days suggests to me who it might have been, but that is just my personal opinion. The defeat of the “vote your conscience” rule was a different initiative that also went down in flames. THAT vote might have propelled Cruz to the nomination since so many of the delegates were committed to him after the 2nd ballot. That, apparently, is where Mike Lee had placed his hopes, but those were dashed. Mike Lee’s behavior is better explained by Utah being Mormon, and Mormonism opposed Trump in every state where they have a sizeable presence once Romney spoke out against him....Romney being the actual head of Mormonism these days, with all due respect to the Mormon pope in Salt Lake City.


46 posted on 07/16/2016 7:00:15 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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One still wonders who they had in mind to nominate

Kasich maybe?

Thanks for 'splaining Rule 12 to me. I dimly remember that one now, and what it was for. It's a tremendous relief to me that "vote your conscience" went down in flames....

What do you think of the Pence veep pick?

47 posted on 07/16/2016 7:18:21 AM PDT by betty boop
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Mike Pence is one of the original conservative, tea party candidates. He is Ted Cruz without the legal background. He is media savvy having been a radio talk show host. He gained insight and important position in the House after elected to it, so he has legislative creds and connections. He has a governor term under his belt, so he has executive experience also. He is a wise executive, legislative, media, and party unity pick. His 2 weaknesses with conservatives are touchback amnesty and religious restoration walkback.

Touchback amnesty could describe Trump's plan except Trump calls for vetting returnees for run ins with the law, fraud, etc before allowing them to return. One hopes that includes welfare, tax return, and social security fraud. Pence probably meant that, too, but he wasn't a major candidate forced to detail his thoughts.

The rap on walking back the Indiana religious freedom act came amid a media firestorm over Indiana pizzas and gay weddings. IN RFRA said that Indiana couldn't violate religious freedom without a compelling state interest that couldn't be otherwise accommodated. IIRC, he partially bowed to media pressure by adding some provision to that legislation that either killed it or weakened it. I don't remember which.

48 posted on 07/16/2016 8:26:55 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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His 2 weaknesses with conservatives are touchback amnesty and religious restoration walkback.

Well, I think conservatives need to give Pence some slack on those for now. Trump at this point at least seems to favor touchback removal, not amnesty. Especially those illegals who have a criminal record here. The "Kate's Law" proposal -- which continues to fail in Congress -- would represent a "meeting of the minds" of Trump and Gov. Pence. It's best to move forward baby-step by baby-step rather than in one swell foop....

It is probably impossible now to "remove" all the illegal aliens in our country, who in many cases are members of families who have been here for generations. The Fourteenth Amendment's definition of "citizen" as it is currently construed by the federal and state courts makes this exceptionally complicated, difficult. But I'm sure a sane answer can be found, once people seriously start focusing on the issue, rather than just demagoguing it.

Hopefully, the Republican Congress will continue "Republican" in both Houses after Nov. 9th. If so, there's a very good chance that good progress can be made on this front over the next few years.

As for Pence "backing away" from IN RFRA: God bless this gallant man for getting it passed in the first place. Of course, "the usual suspects" instantly started agitating against it. In the end, what it all boiled down to: The anti-IN-RFRA media campaign was more persuasive (politically) than the Governor's, and so his new legislation was seriously "defanged." I don't think Pence even had a media strategy.

I hate to say what I just said. But on my observation, it is mainly true: People are swayed by messages.... Fewer and fewer think for themselves, they wait to be "instructed."

Anyhoot, I'm pleased that Trump chose Pence as his running mate. I sense good complementarity there. A couple weeks ago, I was flirting with the idea of Newt as Veep. But then I thought, oh my, that would be too exciting, even overwhelming!!! A Donald AND a Newt at the same time??? Jeepers, a lot of Americans would likely need to increase their blood pressure meds....

But can you imagine Newt as President Donald Trump's Chief-of-Staff??? Oh my word. That job is the second-most-powerful job in Washington: For one thing, the COS controls access to the President. The VP has to go to the COS to get an appointment to even see the President. Or so I understand.

Then again, such rules are barbarous. LOL! :<)

Oh, just dreaming of who Trump would pick for some truly important slots in his Administration! Michael Flynn as SecDef would please me enormously. One wonders who he will chose for SecTreas -- Stephen Moore? Robert Laffer? Ben Carson as SecHHS? Chris Christie as AG? There are so many talented and eminently qualified people who have been shut out of public service year after year by goose-stepping progressives in government, the MSM, and academe who obviously owe fealty to Barack Obama....

It is now time to vote them all away, to sweep away goose-stepping progressives. That's what the 2016 presidential election is all about.

I'm glad Trump released a list of potential judicial nominees already. Very helpful. Now I wish he might tell us who's he's thinking of hiring for his various Administrative Departments?

I just wish those silly #NeverTrump people would get on-board the #NeverHillary train. I'll never forgive Mitt Romney, the former governor of my home state, for stirring all this up to begin with....

I'm so looking forward to the Convention!

Thank you for your brilliant analysis, dear Brother!

49 posted on 07/16/2016 10:29:56 AM PDT by betty boop
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Thanks for your solid comments and kind words, Sister Betty.

My basic opinion on any pick for Veep was that anyone would have had strengths and weaknesses. Pence had a few weaknesses, too, but so did every other possibility. A few names I would have considered beyond the pale, but they were never even mentioned.

Pence's strengths should be celebrated, and the battle fully engaged. I actually expect murder and mayhem from the Clintons, so we should expect something similar to a mafia struggle. Trump should maintain private security and have them vet his secret service detachment. That sounds paranoid, but the communists have had 8 years to position people. I don't trust them. Better safe than sorry.

I'm encouraged as well by Trump's judicial picks, but I'm fairly convinced that the judiciary, as we now have them, are among the founders' errors. I would remove from all judges the power of review and decision and make them solely an authority in the area of conducting process in hearings and trials. They clearly are partisan as proven once again this week by judge ruth bader ginsberg.

50 posted on 07/16/2016 11:40:19 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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Trump should maintain private security and have them vet his secret service detachment. That sounds paranoid, but the communists have had 8 years to position people. I don't trust them. Better safe than sorry.

I totally agree. It's not "paranoid." The stakes couldn't be higher for the Progressive Left in this country. And one thing that's absolutely clear about them is they believe that "the ends justify the means."

Say, how did you like that Cruz speech last night??? To say I was scandalized by it would be an understatement....

51 posted on 07/21/2016 11:01:37 AM PDT by betty boop
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