Posted on 07/08/2016 11:15:33 AM PDT by Rinnwald
“We saw no other option than to use our bomb robot and place a device on its extension to detonate where the suspect was”
“Sets a questionable precedent”
I agree with you. Though police did bomb MORE in Philly in the 80s with disastrous results. I think Waco is another bad precedent setting situation.
I don’t think anyone laments the dispatching of this guy.
But we must always be watchful, so this is a valid point.
I do not believe that police should be allowed the use of armed drones or robots without allowing citizens to have the same.
Just like the proliferation of armored personnel carriers and other surplus war material in police forces, we can’t just simply accept this without question or comment just because an unsavory character was eliminated in this way.
Yes, I confused Rizzo with Goode and this MOVE thing was in the news on and off for years. It was Goode who set the town on fire (IIRC) with a "smoke bomb", not Rizzo.
sailor76 wrote: “Ok, ok, I see your pretzel logic now. So you like robot bombers? Why not give the cops nerve gas,flame throwers and tactical nukes?”
No one is advocating providing tactical nukes to law enforcement so why did you bring that up?
sailor76 wrote: “Anything to take out a “bad guy”, Constitution be damned!”
Care to cite the clauses in the Constitution that were violated by the employment of this robot?
Love all the Anti-Cop comments here, as an EX FELON/S HEH HEH
Hey that looks like a Jewish star, what are you an anti-semite?
Except he claimed he had set bombs and could start setting them off. Threat to lives can be countered with deadly force as well as harsh words
I have read all of your posts in this thread and so far have not been able to determine EXACTLY what it is about the cops using a bomb to kill the sniper that upsets you.
I am confident that the sniper was given the opportunity to surrender, multiple times. He chose to die. Do you believe that the cops should have tossed a couple of flash bangs at him and then rushed in where they would be susceptible to him exploding his own bombs and killing the attack team?
They knew they were up against an experienced soldier simply by his offensive tactics and unless you’ve ever been in combat yourself you’d know that it is not a good idea to attempt to capture prisoners when you have the option of killing your opponents.
If he felt that the media was his friend I’m sure he would have surrendered, instead he chose his own fatality. He started the lethal fight, they ended it with the tools available to them.
It dosen't. Soon they'll be calling in air strikes. Do you want to live in that country? I don't.
Today's cop looks more like an infantryman than a police officer.
No. Tis better that this one is dead-dead.
This situation is NO comparison to Waco or Ruby Ridge.
Suspect said to have explosives And we still don’t know how many snipers/partners were there.
Vaporizing him was most expedient.
Not I.
Hmmmm. Freeper Class of '07.
Hmmm. 'K
I'm not disturbed. The monster had to be put down - the method used does not matter as long as it takes out the scumbag. If a police sniper took him out with a shot between the eyes, there would not any discussion about the method. There shouldn't be any if a robot did it.
sailor76 wrote: “Look, there was a time when cops had a billy club, a .38 revolver and a shotgun.”
I understand. The police are only reacting to a changing society. It would be inappropriate to insist our police continue to act as they did in the fifties as they respond to today’s circumstances. The solution can only come if we change society.
The question is: Do you trust the judgement and character of the Federal and State police agencies to use such weapons appropriately and justly? I don’t.
Not true, the police now want 100% "Officer Safety", which they've never had and will never get. Police work has always been inherently dangerous and this will never change.
When cops demand 100% officer safety, it puts all the risk on the citizenry and leads to events like in MN where some poor SOB was shot dead reaching for his ID; which in turn led to Dallas.
If cops don't like the risk in their job, I suggest they find other work, and we as a society will find cops who have better things to do besides pulling people over for burned out tail lights on fishing expeditions, then shooting them.
sailor76 wrote:
“When cops demand 100% officer safety, it puts all the risk on the citizenry and leads to events like in MN where some poor SOB was shot dead reaching for his ID; which in turn led to Dallas.”
“If cops don’t like the risk in their job, I suggest they find other work, and we as a society will find cops who have better things to do besides pulling people over for burned out tail lights on fishing expeditions, then shooting them.”
The latest reports are that “the poor SOB” was reaching for a gun.
The latest reports are that he wasn’t pulled “over for a burned out tail light” but matched the BOLO for an armed robbery.
Yeah, it would be so much better to have policemen risk getting shot by this clown while trying to shoot him themselves.
Maybe if you had been there you could have taken point in the operation to show us that it’s No Big Deal to put yourself at risk of getting killed so that Snowflakes wouldn’t have to worry about nasty robots blowing a killer to pieces.
The latest reports are that he wasn’t pulled “over for a burned out tail light” but matched the BOLO for an armed robbery.
Yes I saw that, but don't you think its a bit odd that the info didn't come out for over 24hrs? I mean, if I was the cop shooter I'd make sure that info got out immediately, wouldn't you?
No,I'm smelling an informational "drop gun", which is another time tested trick any cop would know.
The problem is that police already had bombs in their arsenal. Invoiced, ordered, shipped, accepted, catalogued, stored, paid with tax dollars, and waiting to use on citizens. THAT is the problem!!
So, would you say anti-personnel explosives should be in the order of equipment for all police agencies?
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