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Tom Brady won't appeal suspension to Supreme Court
ESPN.com ^ | July 15, 2016 | ESPN.com News Services

Posted on 07/15/2016 10:31:17 AM PDT by Biggirl

Tom Brady announced Friday that he will not appeal his four-game Deflategate suspension to the U.S. Supreme Court, saying in a message on his Facebook page that he will "no longer proceed with the legal process."

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To: lepton
Every QB who was tested on the issue could immediately tell if a football was over or underinflated.

Those other QB's would have known that the footballs were underinflated as would any QB!

So the notion that Brady was playing with an underinflated football but the Colt QB had a normal inflated one and both were in the same weather conditions is simply too much!

You Patriot fans can convince yourselves of that nonsense.

81 posted on 07/16/2016 10:30:22 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: detch

It’s not an analogy, it’s a FACT. Baseballs get doctored CONSTANTLY. It’s one of baseball’s “proud traditions”. It’s part of the foundation of the league.

The gloves have been OK’d by the league. Nothing suspect out them. The league realizes that receivers catching balls is way more exciting than receivers dropping balls so they agreed to let them have spiderman gloves.


82 posted on 07/16/2016 10:40:13 AM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: discostu
It’s not an analogy, it’s a FACT. Baseballs get doctored CONSTANTLY. It’s one of baseball’s “proud traditions”. It’s part of the foundation of the league.


83 posted on 07/16/2016 10:43:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: detective
You don't know what you are talking about.

I know a Patriot spinmeister when I hear one...

84 posted on 07/16/2016 12:25:46 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: discostu

My reference is to two teams using different footballs, each using only their (undoctored or not) set of balls, and the referees not noticing the difference, even though they handle the balls after each play.

In the instance of Brady, the baseball analogy doesn’t apply.

However, I appreciate your input. Didn’t know about the Rockies doctoring the baseballs. The analogy would apply if the doctored (dried out) baseballs were used only when they came to bat.

The Brady incident is on the referees back — for lack of perception and basic unprofessionalism and the NFL allowing it to happen in the first place.


85 posted on 07/16/2016 1:26:19 PM PDT by detch (")
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To: fortheDeclaration
“Brady is a cheater”

You know nothing about the basic laws of physics. You know almost nothing about football. You know nothing about the facts of this case. You just keep repeating Brady is a cheater.

If you want to remain ignorant of the facts, go ahead. I don't care. I tried to explain to you what was really going on.

That was just a waste of time.

86 posted on 07/18/2016 2:34:05 PM PDT by detective
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To: fortheDeclaration
“The charges were legit and Brady new(sic) it”

The air pressure decreases when the temperature decreases. The officials used two separate gauges with different readings.

They measured the Patriot footballs right after they came in from the cold. They did not measure the Colts footballs until the end of half time. That was after they had been inside for about half an hour or so. They only measured four of the Colts footballs. They all showed a decrease in pressure.

The supposed deflation of footballs has nothing to do with Spygate. Though people have said Brady was punished, even though he was innocent, to get even for Spygate.

87 posted on 07/18/2016 2:44:35 PM PDT by detective
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To: schaef21
“the ballboy’s nickname was “The Deflator”. When that was discovered they said it was because he was losing weight.”

The ballboy’s nickname was not the deflator. No one called him that. He called himself that only once, in a single text, almost a year before the game in question, as a joke about losing weight.

88 posted on 07/18/2016 2:50:41 PM PDT by detective
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To: sargon

I don’t know if you are able to understand seventh grade science but you can read this if you want to learn a little about what really happened. There are many other articles that prove the same point.

http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2016/03/08/nfl-seventh-grade-science-fair-ben-roger-goodell-patriots-deflategate


89 posted on 07/18/2016 3:24:46 PM PDT by detective
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To: fortheDeclaration

There’s nearly a century of NFL QBs playing with underinflated footballs multiple times a season. Nobody noticed, nor cared.

The difference you are seeing, is when the pressure is different by 2 PSI in room temperature footballs, when the QBs have a chance to stand and knead the clean dry footballs with another football for immediate comparison - something they don’t do during the games.

Every one of those QBs who claimed they could tell each played games where the footballs were down by at least as much pressure as the lowest-pressure football in the 2014 AFCCG - with Mark Brunell in particular playing the equivalent of nearly a full season of such games, despite playing in Jacksonville in a southern division.

Most prominent QBs played games where the footballs were over 3 PSI low, and didn’t notice. And this is without the additional effects of rain. This is a normal phenomenon.


90 posted on 07/18/2016 7:49:38 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Oh...and even after being allowed to sit and warm up for 15 minutes, the three measured Colts balls were still underinflated, albeit no longer by as much. Had they not, they’d have to be magic.

Again, do the math using the equation in the Wells report. It’s not controversial, and hasn’t been for centuries. It’s one of those foundational discoveries that the latter half of the industrial revolution relied on.

Start with 12.5 PSI at 71 to 74 F, as the refs locker room was determined to be, and then for example calculate what the ball pressure would be in the Minnesota game last year at -6 F.

The formula for PSI and Fahrenheit is:
P2 =((P1+14.7)*(T2+459.67)/(T1+459.67)-14.7)

It’s not hard. Junior high school kids do it daily.


91 posted on 07/18/2016 8:02:31 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: fortheDeclaration

“And don’t forget, other teams were complaining about this before this incident.”

Details matter. None of the prior complaints involved balls that the Patriots had control over. What those examples illustrate is not evidence of Patriot cheating, but of Harbaugh and the Colts GMs being clueless. In effect, the Colts GM was claiming his own people were deflating footballs on behalf of the Patriots - and Harbaugh not understanding that the Kicking balls are kept in the refs custody at all times. In Harbaughs defense, despite irrationally blaming the Pats, there was actual hanky-panty going on with the kicking ball - by an NFL league official who was stealing game balls intended for charity.

Got the pressure differential calculated for the cited Minnesota game?


92 posted on 07/18/2016 8:13:07 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: detective

I should have cited the chart - it’s from the brief by Physics and Engineering professors across the country.

In regards the NFL not understanding basic physics. I agree that eventually they had to...but the NFL league office had pretty much hemmed themselves in by the following day, and don’t appear to have asked appropriate people prior to that. They seem to have known by the time they sent Brady the letter of charges with what turned out to be completely false information in it - there’s not really any other reason to have done that.


93 posted on 07/18/2016 8:22:31 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
Your guy was caught cheating-get over it.

So, only the Patriot balls deflated and not the Colt balls?

Brady lied when he said that he couldn't tell any difference in the balls when every NFL QB could tell the difference immediately.

Blow your smoke somewhere else.

94 posted on 07/19/2016 11:20:27 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: lepton
Give me a break!

If Brady didn't have anything to hide he would have admitted he knew the balls felt underinflated!

Every QB tested knew exactly when a football was underinflated and overinflated.

95 posted on 07/19/2016 11:22:00 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: lepton
When people play the Patriots they have to watch every rule because the Patriots will use every tactic to break them whenever they think they can get some advantage.
96 posted on 07/19/2016 11:23:09 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Every QB tested knew exactly when a football was underinflated and overinflated.


There are literally thousands of examples that your assertion is just wrong.

I gave you an extreme example...and you just refuse to even try to have a clue.

Have a good day.


97 posted on 07/19/2016 7:05:37 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
Not that I saw!

They had NFL use NFL balls and they could tell instantly if they were slightly underinflated or overinflated.

Brady knew!

98 posted on 07/20/2016 4:52:04 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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