If you believe the 60s were an assault on western civ, it’s a little hard to take, but I realize people get addicted to the pop culture and can’t imagine life without it.
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Very astute comment.
I think the answer is yes, a conservative can’t really be Beatle’s fans, at least not in the conventional sense of the word fan.
I was a big fan as a teen. That was well before I understood the impact of the 60’s and the impact of the pop/youth culture that was promoted and presented.
The 60’s is the genesis of all our problems now.
It really did transform our culture from a Judeo Christian culture to a pop culture multi-culture.
The deepest songs most people think of now are old pop songs, not hymns.
Pop culture did become the new religion as the most common cultural touchstone.
Religious experiences over the past 50 years for most people have been related to pop music, often in combination with drugs.
Etc...
If it were just music, it would be a different story.
But at the same time, if it were just music, the Beatles wouldn’t have such a foot hold.
They are good, but the fact is, they aren’t that great. I now don’t really care enough to listen to them. I find this true with most old pop songs, including classics, that they are boring. Their production and associations beyond the music itself provides a lot of the enjoyment.
I also find, if I start listening to the Beatles (as an example), after a bit of listening they cease to be boring and the old allure can come back. It is a subjective thing, they are very compelling, but not nutritious, to mix a metaphor.
Still, I like the Beatles OK. I don’t think anyone should be a “fan” of them anymore.
I respectfully disagree with you. Believe it or not, the 20s and 30s. The Frankfurt school and Gramsci...
Cultural Marxism. The bane of our Republic.
It’s funny you pick up on that word “fan”. A bit of an insulting, degrading term, no?
Anyway, what are you going to do? It’s not worth bickering about. People are going to do what they are going to do.
It just gets tiresome seeing jingle-writers treated like geniuses.
I think it was the flappers during the 20s, and the swivel hipped rockers of the 50s.
Time marches on, if you approve or not.
Just ran across this:
SEARCHING FOR TRANSCENDENCE WITH RADIOHEAD
“Still, I keep going to shows, in venues big and small, in pursuit of rapture. I want another taste of the Pentecostal frenzy that I remember, accurately or not, from the hot non-arena shows of my youth.”
Exactly your point.
I found that a trenchant analysis, and it gave me some points to think about.
Makes Lennon’s point that that they were more popular than Jesus at the time look not so foolish, now.