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More than 60 percent of Windows users would switch to Mac for more privacy
BetaNews ^ | August 2, 2016 | By Ian Barker

Posted on 08/04/2016 5:03:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: VanDeKoik
“Boy, do you LOVE to make up your facturds, don’t you. Apple iPhones NEVER out-sold everyone else. “

Hey, you said it, not me.

I’ll bet your fellow fanatics will be amused to hear this revelation.

I've never said they did. You've just claimed it as one of your facturds in your incessant attempts to smear me and Apple with false claims.

61 posted on 08/05/2016 1:05:43 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

So you are saying the iPhone never outsold other smartphones at any point?

I just want to make sure this is clear.


62 posted on 08/05/2016 1:22:57 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Swordmaker
I was able to view it as a link but when I tried to download and view it, it lost its formatting. Might be a setting in acrobat — if printed out it would be several feet wide. Lol.

Anyway, it is clear that Linux and BSD diverged and are not directly compatible versions of Unix. As I read on the Internet, Linux and BSD are distant cousins; related but different. A lot of complaints about wifi drivers, etc. which is typical of Linux. Been there done that.

Also, Linux users tend to be tinkerers and roll your own types and Mac users don't care what is going on behind the GUI — just make it simple and easy to use.

63 posted on 08/05/2016 5:18:57 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345; dayglored
I read on the Internet, Linux and BSD are distant cousins; related but different. A lot of complaints about wifi drivers, etc. which is typical of Linux. Been there done that.

The command structure of both are the same. Mac users are just a couple of key strokes away from a fully functional command line UNIX™ terminal. Almost any Linux app can be compiled to run under UNIX. . . And vice versa. Apple has added owns a lot of the open source utilities that are used by Linux, such as CUPS and WEBKIT. There's a lot more for which Apple is the primary creator.

64 posted on 08/05/2016 5:31:17 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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That is not what I read. I don’t have the time nor interest to test it myself. But the experts recommend against it for all of the hassles of drivers and a stable development environment.


65 posted on 08/05/2016 5:38:47 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: VanDeKoik
So you are saying the iPhone never outsold other smartphones at any point?

I just want to make sure this is clear.

The iPhone as a model line, and as an individual product, outsells every other individual model smartphone, regardless of maker or model. It does not, however, out sell the aggregate total of all Android smartphones as currently reported by IDC or Gartner, since they insist on lumping all Android phones into the category of "smartphones" including feature phones and basic dumb phones, and the multitude of white box phone makers who generally do not even make smartphones but concentrate instead on dumb and feature phone markets.

The iPhone has never had the major market share when compared against the entire cellular phone market. Never. In the last several years, the iPhone has, with the occasional blip when Samsung introduced a new model, had the number one, two, and three or four, best selling smartphone models on the market. . . At several points, Apple has had FIVE of the top six best selling smartphones on the market at the same time. Again, VanDeKoik, these are facts.

That still does not mean that Apple ever had the largest market share of the overall smartphone market. Those data are not mutually exclusive nor do they have to be, except apparently in your anti-Apple delusionary hatred, where it seems to be necessary to prove me wrong about something.

66 posted on 08/05/2016 5:49:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: dhs12345; dayglored
That is not what I read. I don’t have the time nor interest to test it myself. But the experts recommend against it for all of the hassles of drivers and a stable development environment.

Uh, dhs, drivers are hardware specific, not something that would be included in an App, especially WIFI drivers. I think what you are complaining about is the problem in Linux with having consistent drivers that will work with the myriad versions of the hardware that any particular Linux distribution will work with. . . And how the users are the ones who are forced to find the correct driver that works with their particular and unique mix of components their system is built with. The drivers in Linux are going to be, by the very nature of Linux, a mix of professional and amateur efforts, some great, and some not-so-great, and some just OK.

That does not mean that they won't compile in UNIX and run. It just means they will most likely be just as good or flakey as they are in Linux on the same hardware. Compiled code probably will not run on different machines, but starting with the same code should compile and once compiled it should once you take into account hardware differences, if any.

67 posted on 08/05/2016 6:01:02 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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That was the old days but Linux has come a long way 》on the PC 《. I have a bit experience with PC hardware but no experience with converting a Mac. From what I read only the lunatic fringe would install linux on a Mac and I'd be back to searching the internet for drivers. I don't need that kind of abuse. Been there, done that. Plus I don't have a spare Mac laying around.
68 posted on 08/05/2016 8:28:20 PM PDT by dhs12345
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That was the old days but Linux has come a long way 》on the PC 《. I have a bit experience with PC hardware but no experience with converting a Mac. From what I read only the lunatic fringe would install linux on a Mac and I'd be back to searching the internet for drivers. I don't need that kind of abuse. Been there, done that. Plus I don't have a spare Mac laying around.

Why? It's not hard.

You can try it out on a USB stick if you want:

How to try Linux without risking your Mac.

If you understand UNIX commands, the article is quite understandable on how to play around with Ubuntu Linux on a Mac using a Windows PC install download.

69 posted on 08/05/2016 9:00:57 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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I do. And I know the issues with portability and drivers. Yuck!

I have done the flash drive thing and booting from a disk to test compatibility. I know all about the process and I have paid my penance to the Linux gods back before it was not ready for prime time. Although I like a challenge I have better things to spend my time on.

The only Apple product that I might consider tinkering around with is that Ipad that I mention in previous posts that is no longer supported by Apple and is pretty much an expensive door stop. Ironically, it might be better supported under Linux than by Apple. The Linux distis tend to support old hardware than new (PC, definitely and maybe Apple, too). It might be able renew the life of an old obsolete Apple Ipad.

I'd have to figure out how to overwrite the OS which means via the USB port and a PC probably running Linux. Plus, I am concerned about the drivers. A mainstream PC/Mac is one thing, an Ipad is another all together. And no, just because it supported under BSD/OSX, it doesn't mean that it will work under Linux.

70 posted on 08/06/2016 8:15:20 AM PDT by dhs12345
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