Coast to Coast radio show. Last night, discussed EMP threat. Bump for Trump

Coast to Coast Radio Show ^ | 8/9/2016 | (self)

[cba123]

I was listening to the talk radio show Coast to Coast AM, this morning.

There was a very good segment, on the threat of losing power, due to an EMP attack.

This is an issue, which George Noory, has been talking about, for almost two years.

I support him on this, and think this is an issue which Trump should take a position on.

America needs to protect our electrical grid.

[Hulka]

Supposedly, as we don’t really know, anything with a microchip would be fried and non-functional.

[Hulka]

“Does the EMP effect electronics if they’re not running.”

It’s the chip in the electronics, not “electrnics” writ-large.

[Hulka]

Seems I recall a TV show, maybe Myth-Busters, they built a Faraday cage and it protected the gear inside. . .or maybe it was a different show.

[MHGinTN]

We The People will deal with them in due ‘coarse’ ... Carry extra mags.

[MichaelCorleone]

“I think it is important for Donald to take a position, in favor of protecting our national power grid, from an EMP attack.”

It is of paramount importance.

I would think the Trump people are aware of the threat, but will only speak about it when Mr. Trump knows all the facts and examines all the options at his disposal as Commander in Chief.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Your links are bad. They just give me the message of “This document does not exist on this server.”

[Tilted Irish Kilt]

Tolerance Sucks Rocks :" Your links are bad."

The links are good
The HTML is defective
Cut and paste in your browser.

[Ancesthntr]

“Anyone capable of launching a nuke into orbit isn’t going to waste it on trying to maybe create an EMP but would go for complete destruction of nuking cities instead.”

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I disagree. A couple of nukes properly tuned for EMP and delivered to the right place could kill 90% of the population in a year - from starvation, disease, fighting for resources, etc. Lots cheaper than dozens of missiles, which will kill less people and leave the US wounded but alive as a force in the world.

Either way, the launching nation ends up as radioactive slag, but if you’re insane and want to destroy a First World enemy, EMP is the way to go.

[Iron Munro]

Thanks for the post about the early years.

My grandma never had indoor plumbing on her small farm til the mid 1950’s.

Until the day she died the house was heated with just a real Ben Franklin in the living room and a wonderful wood burning kitchen stove in the big country kitchen. That room was the best place to be in the winter!

Both fires were banked at night and in the morning during winter the upstairs chamber pots would be skimming over with ice.

They grew or raised most of their food and bought very little other than staples at the grocers.

They raised cows, pigs, chickens, ducks and there was homemade butter, fresh milk and eggs and home baked biscuits and bread and jam everyday.

She and mom taught me how to can produce, meats, relishes, etc. while I was just a young kid and I still do it.

What we think of as prepping was the normal way people lived then.

[Ancesthntr]

I don’t think that your water pump is protected. You have to plug it in somewhere, and the EMP will travel down the electrical cord into the pump itself, frying it. What you need is a spare pump and spare electrical cords, all in a faraday cage, preferably one that has multiple layers of protection. Either that, or have a manual pump available.

If I were in your position, I would go for the manual backup. Nobody here has considered the possibility of a second EMP strike several hours or days after the first one. This would catch a lot of equipment that had not been destroyed in the initial strike, and/or destroy spares that were brought out after the initial strike.

[Iron Munro]

Keep a well bucket (aka bailer bucket) on hand for times when there is no electricity or no working pump.

You can buy them ready made or make one yourself.

Just run a search for bailer bucket or DIY Well Bucket

Lehmans has one for sale here:

https://www.lehmans.com/product/lehmans-own-galvanized-well-bucket

[Iron Munro]

Just one or two nukes launched off the coasts with only a reletively short range missile would set the country back 100-200 years.
An enemy wouldn’t need an ICBM or a delivery vehicle capable of placing a satellite into orbit.

An EMP attack is a very real threat.

Other posters on this thread have shared some very good information about an EMP strike.

I wouldn’t disregard what they say until you have done some research on your own.

The US government did an in depth study on EMP and reached the conclusions that others have posted here.

A report about the study is available as a PDF online for for you to read here:

http://www.empcommission.org/docs/empc_exec_rpt.pdf

Like with so many other issues, our government is good at collecting valuable data and bad at taking meaningful action based on that data.

Here is something to consider:

OPERATION STARFISH PRIME

In July 1962, the US carried out the Starfish Prime test, exploding a 1.44 megaton bomb 400 kilometres (250 mi) above the mid-Pacific Ocean. This demonstrated that the effects of a high-altitude nuclear explosion were much larger than had been previously calculated. Starfish Prime made those effects known to the public by causing electrical damage in Hawaii, about 1,445 kilometres (898 mi) away from the detonation point, knocking out about 300 streetlights, setting off numerous burglar alarms and damaging a microwave link.

Starfish Prime was the first success in the series of United States high-altitude nuclear tests in 1962 known as Operation Fishbowl. Subsequent tests gathered more data on the high-altitude EMP phenomenon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse

Remember - in 1962 we didn’t have the electronics we have today. No electronc car ignitions or fuel injection, no cel phones, no computers running the electric grid, no computerized inventory control or store point-of-sale registers, etc.

[Rannug]

Thanks for the comment.

[TEXOKIE]

Hi Tilted!

I just got this in email and thought it might deserve a place in your list. It is a little of the history of EMP, now HEMP and project Starfish. It also gives brief instructions on how to construct a viable Faraday cage.

http://www.selfreliancecentral.com/2016/08/10/the-deadly-spawn-of-starfish-prime/?utm_source=160811SRCDBAGORA2&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=160811SRCDBAGORA2

[greeneyes]

Thanks for the pings and links.

[Freedom56v2]

Frame it as protecting essential infrastructure as a way to battle terrorists.

If you talk EMP or some sort of prepper’ scenarios, then you will lose a lot of people/support.

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Well put!!!