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I am dreading the loss of freedom on the Internet if the USA loses control. Can someone explain what will actually happen if our Congress will not/cannot stop this transfer?
1 posted on 09/23/2016 9:33:07 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: originalbuckeye

Has the Republican Congress ever stopped Obama on anything? You will not recognize the Internet in 12 months.


2 posted on 09/23/2016 9:37:35 PM PDT by Herodes
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To: originalbuckeye

“Can someone explain what will actually happen if our Congress will not/cannot stop this transfer?”

Like so much of the constitutionally dubious actions by Jugears et all, I don’t think we have anything of this magnitude to compare.


3 posted on 09/23/2016 9:38:16 PM PDT by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Is this a trick question?


4 posted on 09/23/2016 9:39:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: originalbuckeye

There is no “cannot”, so it’s a matter of will. And the Uniparty’s will is the same as Obama’s will.


5 posted on 09/23/2016 9:39:59 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: originalbuckeye

YES


6 posted on 09/23/2016 9:42:10 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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To: originalbuckeye

They had better not!!!

Seriously...this cannot stand. We need to flood the phone line, etc.

We cannot give control of something we invented!!!!


10 posted on 09/23/2016 10:07:43 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (May God Bless the United States of America)
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To: originalbuckeye

Yes, because they bought the snow job offered up by the White House that it is a step in the direction of smaller government.


11 posted on 09/23/2016 10:10:39 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: originalbuckeye

Trump is supporting Cruz’s attempt to stop Obama from giving away the internet.


14 posted on 09/23/2016 10:33:24 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Peace through Strength)
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To: originalbuckeye
"Will Congress stop Obama? "

ABSOLUTELY NOT! What are you thinking?

16 posted on 09/23/2016 11:02:26 PM PDT by matthew fuller (The clintons are utterly without redeeming social value.)
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To: originalbuckeye

People had better start making alternate communication plans.

Fast.


19 posted on 09/24/2016 12:19:18 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Yes, we will have a free internet come 1/1/2017.


20 posted on 09/24/2016 2:57:46 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: originalbuckeye

I do believe will stay the same for now.

The rest of the world is waiting for the upcoming Presidential elections and with I have seen, there is a growing interest in Mr. Trump.


21 posted on 09/24/2016 3:00:05 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: originalbuckeye

What’d you expect from the Waffle House ?


23 posted on 09/24/2016 5:54:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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I have read that one side disaster of giving away control is that the new controlling body will have control over the .mil domain. The one where our Military communicates with it’s members about non-classified information. Can anyone comment on this?


24 posted on 09/24/2016 7:24:55 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: originalbuckeye; bushwon

Paul Ryan and the House could use some encouragement last I heard.

Did I miss something? Are the spending bills finished?


27 posted on 09/25/2016 4:57:13 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Trump Opposed to ICANN reform --China's conquest of internet, Hillary's gatekeeper)
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To: originalbuckeye

ICANN Transition Even Endangers ‘.gov’ and ‘.mil’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3469586/posts

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/download/09-14-16-rosenzweig-testimony.

I focused a lot on Rosenzweig’s tesimony. He is a top-notch professional witness and has been deeply involved in the ICANN transition for two years.

1. Department of Homeland — former deputy assistant secretary for policy.

2. Currently he runs a consulting organization for Homeland.

3. Rosenzweig authored and edited numerous books on cyber-security and freedom of speech. [He also produced DVDs on those subjects.]

4. As for his politics, He’s been writing Heritage Foundation columns all the way back to 1977.

Here’s some of Rosenzweig’s testimony:

[When it wears you out, just scroll down to the line of stars. Then it hits you.]

The US government is delegated as the operator of the .Gov and .Mil top level domains. Rather than guaranteeing the permanent continuation of that role by way of contract, the NTIA and ICANN have chosen to exchange letters which, in the end, promise the US that ICANN will followits policy and notify the government before any re-delegation is made.

Thus, American control of .Gov and .Mil (which are essential to the continued stable operations ofAmerican government IT systems) is not assured by any enforceable mechanism.

[snip]

Today, the United States has exclusive use of the .mil and .gov domains. Allowing other governments orthe private sector to use these gTLDs poses security risks.

In a July 8th 2015 hearing held by the HouseEnergy and Commerce Committee’s Subcommittee on Communications and Technology, when pressed about formalizing the informal agreement about .mil and .gov, Assistant Strickling stated, There is nothing in the transition of our stewardship which actually implicates .mil or.gov, and also .us, which we administer at the Department of Commerce. But we understand this is an issue of concern and so we will do whatever is appropriate, in consultation with the Department of Defense and GSA and the other agencies that haveequities in this, to make sure that these names are protected going forward.

We understand the importance of it. Today, they are not under any particular contract. These are legacy names that go back to the very beginning of the Internet. I think .mil was delegated back in 1984. That shows you how old it is. So there is no contract today, but there is a whole structure ofthese informal regulations within the Internet model that govern … There is no reason why they should change, but we are not going to rest there.

We are going to take a look at them and make sure that if there is a way we can strengthen theU.S. Government’s rights to those names, we will do so.14As the transition now looms, it is appropriate to look at the solution that the NTIA has adopted. Forsomething this critical I might have supposed that the US government would insist on an enforceablecontract or some other evidence of obligation. Instead according to NTIA,[P]er the policies, procedures, and practices in place, .mil and .gov cannot be transferredwithout explicit agreement first from the current administrators of those domains –namely, the U.S. government. However to address concerns that have been raised, NTIAand ICANN have formally reaffirmed that the U.S. government is the administrator of.mil and .gov and that any changes made to .mil or .gov can only be made with theexpress approval of the U.S. government.

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This reaffirmation was made through an exchange of letters. Not only are the letters non-legally binding, they actually acknowledge the possibility that at some point a separation of the IANA functionfrom ICANN might threaten the stability and security of the US government’s top level domains. I can’t speak for other observers, but for me, as a lawyer, an exchange of letters is a way of avoiding a contractually enforceable obligation. I know why ICANN would prefer that course of action – I have no idea why the NTIA would accept it on behalf of the US government.


29 posted on 09/25/2016 5:16:14 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Trump Opposed to ICANN reform --China's conquest of internet, Hillary's gatekeeper)
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To: originalbuckeye

I believe that they will.


32 posted on 09/25/2016 6:55:10 AM PDT by sport
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To: originalbuckeye; All

I am dreading the loss of freedom on the Internet if the USA loses control. Can someone explain what will actually happen if our Congress will not/cannot stop this transfer?


I am not sure anyone actually knows for sure what will happen or when if this transfer occurs...However, giving control to UN or China will not help free speech lovers like Freepers or Drudge as China and UN seek to limit free speech.

Also, the fact that Obama and Dems wants to do this and Trump, Bolton, Sessions, Cruz, Grassley, and others are concerned about this tells me that it is a bad move.

Numerous threads have been posted regarding this (see below). The most important things you can do are:

1. Call/Email/Tweet your Senators and ask them to bring vote on SB3031 PROTECTION OF INTERNET FREEDOM ACT to floor this week and vote yes for the bill.

2. Call/Email/Tweet your Congressional House Reps and ask them to bring vote on HR5418 PROTECTION OF INTERNET FREEDOM ACT to floor this week and vote yes for the bill.

3. Call/Email/Tweet Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and TELL THEM TO QUIT PLAYING POLITICS WITH OUR INTERNET!!

4. Call/Email/Tweet Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan and tell them you want PROTECTION OF INTERNET FREEDOM ACT (SB3031/HR5418) LANGUAGE IN THE CONTINUING RESOLUTION TO BE PASSED THIS WEEK.

5. Pray our elected “representatives” in DC have the brains to understand the seriousness of loss of control.

6. VOTE TRUMP!!! Trump supports a delay in any transfer of internet power.

John Bolton on Obama’s Internet Handover: ‘Within Ten Years, the Internet as We Know It Will End’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3472489/posts

Obama’s key internet giveaway advocate can’t give a straight answer on free speech concerns
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3472675/posts

BREAKING NEWS] Who oversees the internet? Will Congress delay Oct. 1 transfer?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3472322/posts

Donald Trump Comes Out Against Obama’s United Nations Internet Takeover
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3472239/posts


33 posted on 09/25/2016 9:02:49 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Election is about National Sovereignty, Liberty, and Freedom for future generations)
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