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Leaving Republican Party, where to?
opinion | 10-10-2016 | ShivaFan

Posted on 10/10/2016 8:30:19 PM PDT by ShivaFan

The Republican “leadership” has betrayed me, and for so long, and that is why I voted for Donald Trump. Not just because of what the Democrats and eight horrific years of Obama have been doing to me personally and to my family, not just because of eight years of this pathetic never ending “recovery” that never recovers, not just because of more and more hordes of illiterate aliens and criminal aliens coming over the border to simply overwhelm my vote and my voice by shear demographics, not just because I have to witness the relentless displacement of Americans from their jobs or to watch the one percenters which are all huge donors to Hillary Clinton benefit from cheap labor and open borders, to see our police under militant attack by the far left and by an entire grievance class with their heads full of false narratives and lies, yet the worse part of this ongoing demise of our nation into literally a turd world has been the Republican “leadership” who simply watch it happen while they themselves are toadies of the very same cheap labor interests which donate to Hillary Clinton, as I witness the feckless and spineless Republican “leadership” more concerned about not losing their donor class of cheap labor interests and not losing their seats while they promise everything and then literally give everything to the ilk of the Clintons or Obama, as I watched the Clintons not punished for their crimes but as with the Republican “leadership” more concerned about making sure the law is not for them or the Clintons but only for the people who go to work and then are told lies after lies as this Republican “leadership” betrays me again and again and do nothing, certainly nothing for me, they just are “there” and then give Obama everything, and now the Clintons are more powerful and dangerous than ever and now the Republican “leadership” wants to hand Hillary everything, all the power, just because they are outraged that the Republican base would vote their hopes, the base expressing a voice, and not simply have the “leadership” dictate who will be the “chosen one”, and to watch a complete blurring of who is who where we have come to the point where it is another 20 years of Clinton-Bush, Bush-Clinton, verse my choice Trump, the “leadership” that never leads but only treats me as if I am not worthy of even the slightest respect or voice they give in due reverence to the phony liberal news and media as the same “leadership” parrots the cackles of Hillary that I am a racist, crude, who needs to be silenced, and the “leadership” now so anxious to help Hillary silence the opposition media and our voices and literally criminalize our speech and voice – and …

TODAY was the last I can stand with Paul Ryan. That is it, I hate these bastards now and will so for the rest of my life. Paul Ryan wants to hand Hillary EVERY DAMN THING and then once again just stand there, feckless, to watch me and mine wither on the vine and WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY YOU POS RYAN AND YOU CHEAP LABOR BASTARDS WHO WE ARE SUPPOSE TO CALL “LEADERS”!

Just as they just stood there, giving Obama EVERY DAMN THING and did NOTHING for me and even attacked me, so they now want Hillary so they can do the VERY SAME DAMN THING and she is MORE RADICAL, more dangerous to me and my freedoms, and it isn’t “Hillary” – it is an ENTIRE PACKAGE, don’t tell me “Bill Clinton isn’t running” because damn straight he is and Hillary is a package of all these goons including him and including Jeb Bush and the Republican establishment itself.

Are you kidding me! Today was the end as far as I am concerned. Win or lose, after this election I will leave the Republican Party. I pray Trump wins. But now I need to know – where to?

Please – are there some of you who are Freepers tell me?

Please – can’t some of you, even if you have NO candidate to run nor will for a long time, simply, somehow, form a NEW PARTY? I have no idea – yes it must seem impossible. So many states. But even if it is just “paperwork” where the Party only has a website, no candidates, no money, but is OFFICIAL, a REAL PARTY, Nationalist, where those such as me who have seen Trump betrayed by these bastards, who still want to “carry on” no matter what, but no, no longer, not these Republican “leaders”, these bastards, I will have none of them again. I don’t care about their stupid seats or their local elections, if Hillary gets in and floods us with 40 million more illegal aliens and appoints justices who will destroy my life and loot me, what the hell do I care about Paul Ryan’s damn “seat”, I hope they also all go to hell, I WANT THEM ALL TO GO TO HELL because my country is gone, GONE, GONE because of THEM, Paul Ryan and all the bastards who I will hate FOREVER and want them OUT OF MY LIFE and I hope and pray for their DESTRUCTION just as they left me withering on the vine TO DIE. What? Libertarian Party? Are you kidding me? Look at them. I want a Nationalist Party. Where? How? Are there Freepers out there already planning to make a move, a new party? Please! Please! I am ready. I am leaving the Republicans because after today, that was it, no more, no more insults, no more withering on the vine, in fact I hate them. I hate them. I hate Paul Ryan and all his ilk. Don’t tell me about “local seats”. You never got off your stupid chair to greet me. You only got off your stupid chair to GREET THEM, my enemies, not me. YOU BOW TO THEM WITH YOUR HAND OUT FOR THE DONOR CLASS AND YOUR CHEAP LABOR BENEFACTORS.

Where to? Where to?


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To: ShivaFan

You do not leave.

The entire point is we are going to make them leave. This is the start of the uniparty purge.


41 posted on 10/10/2016 11:07:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Wyoming Cowboy

He has MORE than made up for it by running for president on a platform of

-building a wall

-keeping out radical muslims as much as constitutionally possible

-fixing our huge trade deficits with China and Mexico

-stopping this insane Neocon/Progressive policy of arming radical Islamists in Libya and Syria and supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt

-enforcing the Rule of Law against Ruling Class crooks like Hillary


42 posted on 10/10/2016 11:10:16 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: ShivaFan

Actions as opposed to words?
Ryan and the whole GOP can kiss my hairy ass.
Clintons are rapists and enablers.
Trump spoke poorly.
Big difference but the “elites” are trying to protect their gravy train.


43 posted on 10/11/2016 2:39:17 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Go Trump, Give em hell BABY.,)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Wait until the election. If Trump wins, the republican party will belong to him, and the never trumpers will have to make that choice.

Yep.

44 posted on 10/11/2016 4:29:25 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ShivaFan
Perhaps this year will be the "cleansing of the RINOS" where the GOP finally says "No, you may not put an R after your name if you don't support our platform."
45 posted on 10/11/2016 4:50:43 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: ShivaFan

I left after McCain - I went independent - then, after Romney - I registered DEM (here in NY) to screw with their primaries from now on. It has been a joy to tell the push pollers what I think of Louise Slaughter etc...


46 posted on 10/11/2016 5:30:35 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (clean up is a breeze)
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To: ShivaFan

Sign up to be a precinct chairman
You can change the party.


47 posted on 10/11/2016 6:31:20 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: ShivaFan

Don’t go wobbly! Make your voice heard to your reps and to the Republican hierarchy! Never give up.


48 posted on 10/11/2016 6:35:57 AM PDT by alamogal
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To: gigster

?


49 posted on 10/11/2016 6:47:35 AM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: ShivaFan

You can simply mark “get involved with politics and vote GOP” off your to-do list as it has ceased to be a useful function.


50 posted on 10/11/2016 7:21:30 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ("Political Correctness is communist propaganda writ small" - Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: ShivaFan
Where to, Where to

Lots of choices but most are irrelevant with regards to national politics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

51 posted on 10/11/2016 7:27:32 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

I went through the responses carefully.

I feel it in my heart, after this election, with the betrayals of the ilk of Paul Ryan and this empowering of Hillary’s hatred of everyday Americans, we are going to see a mass exodus out of the Republican Party.

Actually, as I pray Trump wins, I can see this even if Trump wins. Those who supported the hopes and dreams of what Trump represents and which clearly is an anti-establishment wave of sentiment, we will never trust the Republican “leaders” again. Never – they wanted to empower the agenda of Hillary’s hatred for everyday Americans and we do not have another four more years to suffer such hatred.

I noticed one mentioned the AIP of California. Not bad.

Whatever that Party is, I am hoping it will be the folks such as we find on FreeRepublic and elsewhere who will be centric to either it’s creation or propagation. One place. One Party. Because, to me, the purpose, whatever Party that will be – I am hoping it will be a Nationalist party, but whatever party is decided as the One party – this will be a CLEAR STATEMENT of our feelings of this BETRAYAL from Ryan and the others.

Independent is absolutely not the answer for me.

I think it is entering the minds of many… We only need to make it start to happen as soon as the next day after the election. I am watching for it. Then I will join.


52 posted on 10/11/2016 8:35:57 AM PDT by ShivaFan
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To: ShivaFan

The two party beast is what we have and it’s going to be hard to slay it. The two parties
control DC and I can’t see an outside group becoming powerful enough with elected
representatives/senators to slay the current system. True changes can be made and are
needed but I don’t see the dems dissolving their party. Thus only another party with vote
getting potential on that order is the only chance to take control from them. The Reform
Party with Ross Perot got something like 18.9% nationally in 1992 and zero Electoral
College votes. The RP went downhill from there.

I agree change is needed but the two party system seems to be locked in under our current
methods/processes.

Take care and the topic would make for interesting discussions.


53 posted on 10/11/2016 9:09:13 AM PDT by deport
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To: ShivaFan

There’s not another place to go. We have to fix what we have, by ridding ourselves of the corrupt and self-seeking.


54 posted on 10/11/2016 9:55:58 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Fiddlstix
I have long considered myself to be a Conservative and not a Republican. After this election I am finished with the GOP. Kill the Republican party! Force those RINOs to become DimocRATS! Start A new party for real Conservative Americans It's an idea and probably several others have thought over too

I'm voting straight Republican this time...I want Trump to have a Republican Congress to work with.

But if Hillary wins I will NOT be in the same party with #NeverTrumpers... either THEY can create a new party or WE can. I will never be in the same party with them again... I will never vote for one of them again - after this election.

55 posted on 10/11/2016 1:48:47 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Actions speak louder than words." Juanita Broaddrick on the current Trump dust-up...)
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To: lodi90
I will NEVER be in a political party with elite trash like the Bushes, Romney's or Bill Kristol phonies...... They can be the GOP or WE can be the GOP, but not both of us.

I'll vote for them this time... Trump will need a Republican Congress... but after this election I'm out. As are the millions of us who backed Trump.. most of us are leaving.

56 posted on 10/11/2016 1:53:01 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Actions speak louder than words." Juanita Broaddrick on the current Trump dust-up...)
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