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Homicide detective's book describes 'How the Police Generate False Confessions'
http://www.nola.com/The Washington Post ^ | 10/20/16

Posted on 10/20/2016 2:12:03 PM PDT by BBell

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To: Kid Shelleen

He took a shot at Tim Kaine as well.


21 posted on 10/20/2016 3:11:01 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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I don’t get “8. Have them provide details of the crime.”

How is that possible if they didn’t do it?

I’m all for videotaping the entire confession process, although I would argue the admissability may vary. I would never say a damned thing without a lawyer present and a tape running.

Here’s what they don’t tell you: It says 15% of false convictions involve confessions. Well, 90% of all trials end in a plea. A plea includes a confession. A LOT of criminals plea to one crime to stay out of a trial over another crime, and that’s going to lead to a LOT of false confessions. But that doesn’t mean the defendant is innocent. So that stat doesn’t really impress me. And how many times does “false confession” mean the confession was proven to be false, versus simply on a re-hearing, with newly excluded evidence, a jury failed to reach a verdict?

Also, James Trainum is not only selling his book, but also his interrogation consulting services. Let that sink in.

As for PEACE, what the article neglects to mention is that in the U.K., there is no right against self-incrimination. Failure to cooperate fully can lead to a presumption of guilt.

Know what? If I’m on a jury and a defendant told me he made a false confession because he was told he was going to get life or the death penalty, and was promised he could get plea out for 3rd-degree manslaughter, I’m open to his claim.


22 posted on 10/20/2016 3:12:27 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Daffynition

Joe is the man! I love his show and his demeanor.


23 posted on 10/20/2016 3:13:01 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: BBell

That guy has a book out now, “You Have The Right To Remain Innocent”. I’ll give away a spoiler he teases in one of his videos:

One of the tricks the cops use is to phrase a statement or a question so that you make an assumption from it that is correct 99.9% of the time. Then they say, aha!, we never actually told him that! Only the murderer would know that!

They pull this a lot on murder cases. The community has been beating the bushes for a week, divers have been in the town lake for the last three days, the candlelight vigil has been held, but let the spouse speak of the deceased in the past tense one time, and aha!, we never said we were certain his wife was dead!


24 posted on 10/20/2016 3:22:43 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: BBell
Trump is right on the Central Park 5.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/224068/what-media-wont-tell-you-about-central-park-five-ann-coulter
25 posted on 10/20/2016 3:32:23 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Paladin2

Yes indeed.


26 posted on 10/20/2016 3:39:09 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: BBell

Chicagoland had 2 concurrent textbook cases. Dem States Atty framed the Chicago Heigts 7 in Crook County and GOP establishment States Atty Jim Ryan (no relation to the other GOP Ryans) in Dupage County.

Jim Ryan&Co frequently paid a snitch Rolando Cruz, a petty thief, pothead and embarrassment to the human race. But Cruz was not a murderer. Cruz was also a pathetic liar. He was no good on the witness stand pointing at the defendant.

And Jim Ryan had a murder of a little girl he had to solve before election day to prove that an establishment haack was a law-n-order conservative. So he conveniently framed Rolando Cruz, knowing Cruz wais a pathetic liar and would be easy to convict.

Lesson: It’s always smart for an ambitious person to have a fall guy, a scapegoat, close at hand. And pick someone who can’t mount a good defense. <;)>


27 posted on 10/20/2016 4:12:05 PM PDT by spintreebob
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