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To: MtnClimber
Thank you for posting this great article! Of Obama's grand scheme to "change" America, and last year's Trump's announcement, the writer states: "The showdown between a socialist state and the founding fathers' vision for America had begun."

What has followed has flushed out the devotees liberalism/progressivism and has rallied those who understand the truth of this late-19th Century writer who summarized the battle between Socialism, on the one hand, and Individual Liberty, on the other:

"Freedom is the most valuable of all human possessions, next after life itself. It is more valuable, in a manner, than even health. No human agency can secure health; but good laws, justly administered, can and do secure freedom. Freedom, indeed, is almost the only thing that law can secure. Law cannot secure equality, nor can it secure prosperity. In the direction of equality, all that law can do is to secure fair play, which is equality of rights but is not equality of conditions. In the direction of prosperity, all that law can do is to keep the road open. That is the Quintessence of Individualism, and it may fairly challenge comparison with that Quintessence of Socialism we have been discussing. Socialism, disguise it how we may, is the negation of Freedom. That it is so, and that it is also a scheme not capable of producing even material comfort in exchange for the abnegations of Freedom, I think the foregoing considerations amply prove." - EDWARD STANLEY ROBERTSON

16 posted on 10/23/2016 8:41:37 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2
One quotation from Thomas Jefferson might be pertinent here in proving that America's Founders well understood that there might well be such challenges to the Constitution's strict limitations on the actions of future politicians elected to positions of power in government in order to preserve "the People's" rights and liberties against those who might wish to "change" America.

We now must recognize that, since their beginning in the late-1800's, the liberal/progressive movement's ambition to supplant the ideas and principles underlying the U. S. Constitution with counterfeit ideas has been progressing at break-neck speed.

Correct, too, is the observance that the multitudinous bureaucracies already in place against "We, the People," must be displaced, for they are the very accomplices described by Jefferson as 'hiring' themselves to rivet the chains upon the necks" of their fellow citizens."

"I am not among those who fear the people. They...are our dependence for continued freedom. And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds...our people...must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they (the British) now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers.... This example reads to us the salutary lesson that private fortunes are destroyed by public, as well as by private extravagance. And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from the principle in one instance, becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering. Then begins, indeed, the 'bellum omnium in omnia,' which some philosophers...have mistaken for the natural, instead of the abusive, state of man. And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression." - Thomas Jefferson

18 posted on 10/23/2016 8:51:28 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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