Mars in 70 days is great, but Cher wanted to go to Jupiter.
Swell, now the Chineese can rip off this concept and colonize the solar system. Like Trump says, why do we have to tell the world everything we know?
why not just take the TR3B.YOU can go from the moon to mars in 20 minutes,a lot faster.Nahhh... just kidding you guys are not ready for what really exists yet.
There is no getting past the laws of physics.
If these devices are producing thrust, then there is an equal and opposite thrust. There is no avoiding that.
The device is described as cone-shaped, with the thrust occurring at the nose of the cone. I wonder if whoever is looking at these devices is unable to measure the opposite thrust because it is spread over the base of the cone and the measuring instruments are not sensitive enough to pick it up.
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I don’t think any laws are being violated...the bounced around microwaves are being produced by energy and the energy being produced is able to be made phase coherent and focused to produce usable thrust. I wonder if he equal/opposite reaction equation is made up for by energy being used/and transferred from microwave to magnetic field energy which is working opposite gravity. We need to get this device into free fall to see if gravity repulsion is the factor in how this drive works or not. If it doesn’t work in space then the factor has to be gravitational repulsion. If gravity repulsion is the key...then we may very well have solved the problem of getting heavy lift vehicles into orbit using small fractions of the energy necessary of traditional chemical rocketry!...but I wouldn’t look for it to power vehicles in free fall to Mars!( it could be used to assist in landings and takes offs...perhaps in slingshot maneuvres around planets...ect!)
Constant thrust in a closed sysyem with no energy expended is impossible. What they are describing is just the latest version of the Perpetual Motion Machine hoax.
If it were true, then you could easily provide free energy to anybody, anywhere on the planet. Simply construct a vacuum container, attach the cone device to a dynamo and, voila, fred energy!
This is hogwash.
Here is the link to download the .pdf of the actual experiment report.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7kgKijo-p0ibm94VUY0TVktQlU/view
60 watts at 2GHZ is not insignificant power. RF is a lot different than 60 HZ AC.
Now my question, what power source would drive such a device in space?
It appears that the experiment is a legitimate one.
I think the issue is one of beaming microwave to the thruster in space to drive it. It still requires an external RF source.
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This statement in the article puzzles me:
“It works by simply bouncing microwave photons back and forth inside a cone-shaped closed metal cavity.”
To me, microwave RF is not the same particle as photons. This makes me suspect the concept.
The source of the article makes me suspect it is BS.
“Leaked NASA paper shows the ‘impossible’ EM Drive really does work”
“Did we just achieve fuel-less propulsion?”
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The “Leaked” reference tells me it is nonsense.
The reference to “fuel-less propulsion” is certainly totally wrong. It requires an external source of RF power for the drive to work. It is not free power.
Interesting! Bookmarked
I’m still waiting for that Rossi character to produce the LENR E-CAT gizmo that certain people were shilling for here a few years ago.
From what I’ve read of this drive, it sounds like a fairly simple device that could be made cheaply and put in a small enclosure. I say that NASA build one, send it up to the ISS, and have an astronaut fire it up. It really wouldn’t even need a guidance system. Just point it anywhere and turn it on. If it blasts away like a bat out of hell, then we have a working system. If it just sits there and consumes electricity, then it doesn’t work.
Supposedly particle/antiparticle pair production occurs all the time—they form then annihilate in short order—resulting in no net change in the energy content of a given volume of space.
One variant on the reasoning of how Shawyer’s device could work, invokes accelerating these particles during their brief existence, resulting in a minuscule reaction force. The cone shape skews the force balance of accelerating fields acting on particle or antiparticle, creating a slight imbalance of the forces. This out-of-balance condition is designated as thrust.
Will Tom Swift be the pilot?