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To: TakebackGOP
I think if you reflect on the matter you will agree that any such utterances by Levin occurred before Trump was nominated. He opposed Trump before the nomination, as did I and for very much the same reasons which, yes, included the belief that he would not be elected. I should have said that I did not think he would win the popular vote.

Before he was nominated, I promised to support him as the nominee and I did so. After the nomination, Levin criticized Trump for positions which Levin believed to be unsound but he did not actively work to support Hillary and he was not a "Never Trumper," rather, he stated before the election that he would vote for Trump. Levin defended his criticism of Trump on issues arguing that it was necessary to put pressure on Trump, a former Democrat, to ensure that he campaigned and governed as a conservative.

We are after all a conservative forum here and not, presumably, the Trump Republic forum.

Before the nomination it seems that we were all free, or should have been, to criticize competitors for the nomination. God knows Trump supporters did so and did so in the meanest style. After the nomination it was, of course, a different story but even then there is a difference between criticism of policy positions and support of Hillary and certainly room to criticize policy positions without being a (gasp) "Never Trumper."


16 posted on 11/28/2016 9:13:28 PM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

> After the nomination it was, of course, a different story but even then there is a difference between criticism of policy positions and support of Hillary and certainly room to criticize policy positions without being a (gasp) “Never Trumper.”

I agree. Levin stated his support of Trump over Hillary well before the election, and in plenty of time to get that word out to his listeners. He couldn’t be expected to switch to Trump’s views, though, on matters on which they differ (and doing so would merely have discredited him with the persons whom he did have a possibility to influence — not the pro-Trumpers, of course, but persons skeptical about Trump but more hostile toward Hillary). All Trump needed was the vote of those persons, not their full approval.


23 posted on 11/28/2016 9:37:29 PM PST by GJones2 (Levin announced he was voting for Trump well before the election)
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To: nathanbedford

>> He opposed Trump before the nomination

And after. Levin was not only demonic on Trump, he was hostile to Trump’s supporters. I endured his BS for months, and grew tired of it.

I was an avid Levin listener within 50 miles of Ground Zero. Levin came into my home, into my car. But in spite of my 10 year investment, he’s proved himself to be a waste of precious airtime, 770 AM, New York, 6-9 PM. Rush @ noon, Hannity @ 3 PM, then the radio gets turned off @ 6 PM.

Indeed, you made the promise to support Trump should he win the Primary, but you now marginalize your FRiends’ enthusiasm with the cautionary concern that we’re not, for example, collaborating on the Trump Republic — and while continuing to set yourself apart from the Trump supporters. You’re certainly not obliged to be a cheerleader, but each and every criticism against our movement at this moment is a form of aid to the Left.

You’re an intelligent, thoughtful person. I enjoy your rhetoric. But the timing of your contrary opinion seems counterproductive to the insurmountable obstacles and battles we’re fighting. What am I missing?


25 posted on 11/28/2016 9:55:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: nathanbedford

Good post!


35 posted on 11/28/2016 10:30:24 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: nathanbedford

He read articles from National Review about how it’s unlikely Trump would win, and he said on the night of Indiana that we just lost the election to Hillary.


47 posted on 11/29/2016 5:43:44 AM PST by TakebackGOP
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