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Why do I find this in a British newspaper?

Fake or real news???

1 posted on 12/03/2016 9:08:33 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

We need about 800 new A-10s.


2 posted on 12/03/2016 9:11:21 AM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I am philosophically opposed to multi-mission weapons. I believe they tend to suck in multiple ways.

If you want a close support aircraft, build a close support aircraft. That’s what we did with the A-10. It has been fantastic for 40 years. The Air Force has hated it for 40 years.

If you want an air superiority aircraft, build an air superiority aircraft. That’s what we did with the F-22. It was fantastic. So the Air Force killed it.

The F-35 has been bad from Day One. So the Air Force is desperate to keep it at all costs. Hey ... it’s multi-mission!


4 posted on 12/03/2016 9:15:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

how in the hell do you spend $100million on ONE AIRPLANE??????????????????????

You could have 100 times as many a-10’s for that


5 posted on 12/03/2016 9:15:32 AM PST by Mr. K ( Trump kicked her ass 2-to-1 if you remove all the voter fraud.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I don’t know much about the F-35, but I would assume that the technology in it is superior to the Warthog. I do know the Warthog is a tough ole girl and can take a lot of abuse and keep on flyin’. Maybe some pilot out there can shed some light on this.


6 posted on 12/03/2016 9:16:14 AM PST by econjack
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Longest article ever. Still dont know where and when. The A10 will win, as usual, most likely


16 posted on 12/03/2016 9:25:18 AM PST by stanne
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Why not deploy a squadron of each to Jordan and let them run raids over ISIS, and compare results?


17 posted on 12/03/2016 9:26:04 AM PST by marron
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Fake. The USAF just recently announced they were going to upgrade the entire fleet of A-10’s.

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In January 2015, USAF officials told lawmakers that it would take 15 years to fully develop a new attack aircraft to replace the A-10;[121] that year General Herbert J. Carlisle, the head of Air Combat Command stated that a follow-on weapon system for the A-10 may need to be developed.[122] It planned for F-16s and F-15Es to initially take up CAS sorties, and later by the F-35A once sufficient numbers become operationally available over the next decade.[123] As of 2015, the US Air Combat Command is considering developing a replacement aircraft.[124][125] In January 2016, the USAF revealed it was “indefinitely freezing” plans to retire the A-10 for at least several years. In addition to Congressional opposition, its use in anti-ISIL operations, deployments to Eastern Europe as a response to Russia’s military intervention in Ukraine, and reevaluation of F-35 numbers necessitated its retention.[126][127] Retirement has been deferred until 2022 when F-35s are to begin replacing it on a squadron-by-squadron basis.[128] In March 2016, the Air Force revealed it had begun studying future CAS aircraft to succeed the A-10 in low-intensity “permissive conflicts” like counterterrorism and regional stability operations, admitting that the F-35 is too expensive to operate in day-to-day roles; everything from low-end AT-6 Wolverine and A-29 Super Tucano turboprops and the Textron AirLand Scorpion as more basic off-the-shelf options to more sophisticated clean-sheet attack aircraft or “AT-X” derivatives of the T-X next-generation trainer as entirely new attack platforms are being considered.[123][129][130]

In October 2016 Air Force Material Command brought depot line back up to full capacity and prepared to re-wing the fleet.[131]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_Republic_A-10_Thunderbolt_II

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/usaf-to-continue-a-10-warthog-wing-production-421567/

http://www.boeing.com/defense/support/a-10-wing-replacement-program/index.page


19 posted on 12/03/2016 9:32:25 AM PST by mazda77
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“The issue is with what the Department of Defense officials call the ‘brains’ of plane, also known as the Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS). A Government Accountability Office report says a failure ‘could take the entire fleet offline’ because there is no backup system.”

uh, so hasn’t EVERY alien-invader science fiction movie for the last 50 years shown that if you take out the centralized control of the “mother ship”, the mother’s duckling warships become helpless, either falling out of the sky or becoming helpless targets for the inferior earthling warships?


23 posted on 12/03/2016 9:35:49 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
We can argue about this all day long, but put a few of these in the field and it's game over for either plane.


27 posted on 12/03/2016 9:41:27 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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Just watched a show about the development of the F-16.

They recently had a Dogfight exercise against the F-35.

The F-35 lost handily. It couldn’t shoot down one F-16, but the F-16 could shoot down the F-35 with ease.

If the F-35 is supposed to attack other Fighters from miles away utilizing Missiles and its Stealth capabilities, why are they bothering fitting a Gun on it, ground attack?

Absolutely ridiculous using the $100 Million F-35 in a Ground Attack role. They might as well resurrect the P-47 if they kill off the A-10.


29 posted on 12/03/2016 9:55:57 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (One Man's Mainstream Media is another Man's Ministry of Propoganda.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
A-10 all the way. I was stationed at Myrtle Beach when they transitioned from A-7s to A-10s and fell in love with that bird the first time I saw them fly. Slow and low, a cannon that needed to be used in short bursts to keep it from slowing the plane down, ability to stay airborne with horrendous damage to include missing half a wing and deceptive as hell with the right maneuvers - they demonstrated with one about a half mile out and it went through a few maneuvers that made it look like it was heading away and next thing we knew it was on top of us.

It was really neat to see it going down the runway, seeming way to slow to take to the air, have the gear retract from under it while it remained at the same level above the runway then do a hard bank as it began its climb.

30 posted on 12/03/2016 10:05:43 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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If the replacement for the A-10 has a pilot’ seat (or any current generation combat aircraft for that matter), we are doing it wrong.


31 posted on 12/03/2016 10:10:17 AM PST by jz638
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The F-35 is so bad that treason charges ought to be seriously considered for its proponents, if discovery shows that they were motivated for reasons other than national security.
34 posted on 12/03/2016 10:38:59 AM PST by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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This is silly.

Once the deep penetration aircraft like the F-35 have taken out all air defense, and while the F-22 is flying for air supremacy, you can bring in the A-10 and B-52 and B-1B with heavy ordnance to take out armor and troop formations.

For congress to dictate a “fly off” between two aircraft with entirely different missions is nothing but absurd.


35 posted on 12/03/2016 10:47:21 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Also, the F-35 in a ground attack role can probably take out as many tanks as a single A-10 due to it’s precision weaponry.

6-8 at least.


36 posted on 12/03/2016 10:49:33 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I’m rooting for the A-10 a truly frightening aircraft...


37 posted on 12/03/2016 10:51:36 AM PST by Trump-a-licious
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well, some old cars ARE better than some new ones....?


55 posted on 12/03/2016 1:53:43 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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