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California man fights DUI charge for driving under influence of caffeine
The Guardian ^ | 24 December 2016 | Julia Carrie Wong

Posted on 12/24/2016 9:17:42 PM PST by cba123

Attorney for Joseph Schawb, charged with driving under the influence of a drug when his blood test showed only caffeine, calls the charge unheard of

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To: Jonty30

The police can charge you for an inability to be in full control of your vehicle. You don’t have to have drugs in your system. They can do it, if you seem tired or you are emotionally tripping out.


Yes, but that’s not what he was charged with.

He was charged with offense of driving under the influence of a DRUG. Not something else.


21 posted on 12/24/2016 10:16:22 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: higgmeister

Dr. Huewe?
Or a descendent from Dune?


22 posted on 12/24/2016 10:17:32 PM PST by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres T)
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To: Larry Lucido

That reminds me, I have a bottle of coffee flavored Patron. I won it in a raffle. May have to try it out.


23 posted on 12/24/2016 10:18:31 PM PST by ozaukeemom (I am deplorable and proud of it.)
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To: Duchess47

this women should be gone after for misuse of authority.


24 posted on 12/24/2016 10:18:33 PM PST by PCPOET7
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To: chaosagent

That maybe what he says he is charged with, but I’d have to see some court documentation.

Trial by jury here, otherwise.


25 posted on 12/24/2016 10:31:05 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: cba123

Milk Duds? None for me, thanks. I’m trying to cut down.


26 posted on 12/24/2016 11:44:24 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: chaosagent

The only statement made by the prosecution is the following:

Sharon Henry, chief deputy district attorney for Solano County, said in a statement that her office was “conducting further investigation in this matter.”

“The charge of driving under the influence is not based upon the presence of caffeine in his system,” she added.

So caffeine has nothing to do with this.

The rest of this article is total defense attorney BS/spin.


27 posted on 12/25/2016 12:11:26 AM PST by Neanderthal
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To: CrazyIvan

I have a ball jar full in the pantry. A nice afternoon treat.


28 posted on 12/25/2016 12:21:11 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Neanderthal

“driving under influence of caffeine”

I expect to see more of this as illegitimate causes for autonomous vehicles ramp up.


29 posted on 12/25/2016 12:45:49 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Neanderthal

The only statement made by the prosecution is the following:

Sharon Henry, chief deputy district attorney for Solano County, said in a statement that her office was “conducting further investigation in this matter.”

“The charge of driving under the influence is not based upon the presence of caffeine in his system,” she added.

So caffeine has nothing to do with this.


Then what is he being charged with? And why are they “conducting further investigation in this matter.”

Shouldn’t the ‘investigation’ be all done by now, just weeks before the trail?

He was charged with ‘misdemeanor driving under the influence of a drug.’

According to the article, two toxicology reports showed the only ‘drug’ in his system was caffeine.

So after 18 months the prosecutor still can’t tell the defense attorney what WAS in his system? Why not?

The trial is supposed to start in a little over two weeks. When are they going to tell him what he supposedly had in his system?

Doesn’t this all seem a little ‘hinky’ to you?

Having had a cop for a father, and heard some of the stories he told about DA’s, I think they thought they’d be able to get him on something, else why two toxicology tests.

I suspect the agent was PO’d he ‘cut her off’ and wanted to put him in his place. But after he blew a 0.00 they scrambled to find something that would stick.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if right before trial they drop the charges. Of course still leaving him with thousands (tens of thousands) of dollars of lawyer fees. So they still got him.


30 posted on 12/25/2016 1:17:04 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: cba123

Prodigal is a drug that works


31 posted on 12/25/2016 2:30:26 AM PST by preacher
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To: preacher

Provigal


32 posted on 12/25/2016 2:32:20 AM PST by preacher
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To: Neanderthal
I believe the charge was DUI unspecified as to which substance was supposedly influencing him. Blood and breath tests including enhanced tests revealed caffeine and nothing more. The claim that it is a DUI-Caffeine is an assumption because DUI without anything to have been the I is simply absurd.
33 posted on 12/25/2016 4:24:30 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Duchess47

The reason was “cut her off.” The DUI was the charge because whe couldn’t make the “cut her off” into a believable charge. I suspect the coppette felt dissed because the person slid in ahead of her close but at a higher speed. I get rattled for an instant when someone does that in front of me but just as quickly I realize there was no offense because the person was going faster than I and I couldn’t have hit him if I tried.


34 posted on 12/25/2016 4:28:23 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Jonty30

But if they call it DUI, it is not the correct charge. It won’t fly


35 posted on 12/25/2016 4:30:15 AM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: redfreedom

I used to think No Doz was them magic drug potion to keep one going. When my vision got shaky and everything looked like a buzz and I was having a hard time keeping the bike in the lane, I quit with the NoDoz. Next time I got too tired to keep on I parked it and slept for a couple of hours on the ledge under a highway bridge. When I woke I noticed a couple of empty wine bottles and a broken syringe up there and decided it was a popular rest area and got me on down the road.


36 posted on 12/25/2016 4:37:08 AM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: cba123

So, was he driving erratically/aggressively and the gal decided to make false charges to “bolster” her complaint, or is there something else going on?


37 posted on 12/25/2016 4:40:37 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: KarlInOhio

Nice to see another mentat around here


38 posted on 12/25/2016 6:04:49 AM PST by par4
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To: CrazyIvan

Trader Joe’s sells these wonderful chocolate-covered expresso beans. One handful and you are REALLY awake.


39 posted on 12/25/2016 6:11:35 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: redfreedom

A few years ago, I was driving a bus load of kids from camp. As we were crossing a five mile suspension bridge, my heart started racing and my hands began to shake. The bridge was the most stressful part of the drive but one that I had done many time.

I remarked to my co-driver that the weather was fine, there was no wind and no reason to be stressed. Then I realized that I had drank more coffee than normal that day and I was a little wired. The small added stress of the bridge exaggerated the coffee. The shakes went away about a minute later.

Weird.


40 posted on 12/25/2016 7:47:45 AM PST by cyclotic (Democrats haven't been this mad since we freed their slaves)
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