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Dad's rant about his relationship with ex-wife wins him praise for being a "real man"
The Mirror ^ | 02/20/2017 | NICOLA OAKLEY

Posted on 02/24/2017 12:44:23 PM PST by BJ1

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To: BJ1

Try being one second late for the next child support payment, then see what a great relationship exists


61 posted on 02/24/2017 2:13:58 PM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: ReaganGeneration2

“Try being one second late for the next child support payment, then see what a great relationship exists”

Exactly! Right now she gets it all: He’s paying child support, cooking and cleaning and raising the kids, she’s free to go out and screw everything in town.

But, the second that $$$ dries up, she’ll have the lawyer she was screwing around with during the marriage ruin his life.


62 posted on 02/24/2017 2:18:43 PM PST by WilliamCooper1
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To: WilliamCooper1

See my post #45. We both see this the same way. :)


63 posted on 02/24/2017 2:20:43 PM PST by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: BJ1

If he’s not too busy washing her car, maybe he can line dates up for her too.


64 posted on 02/24/2017 2:23:18 PM PST by Gulf War One
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To: BJ1
In a post published on Love What Matters, Billy Flynn explained: "It's my ex-wife's birthday today so I got up early and brought flowers and cards and a gift over for the kids to give her and helped them make her breakfast.

He didn't make her the breakfast himself.

He helped his boys make her the breakfast.

He's teaching them to treat others with respect, even when they don't do the same to you, you don't feel like it, and even if they bad mouth you for it.

God sends the rain on the just and the unjust.

IMO, he's rising above what he probably feels like doing and is doing what he feels is right.

Helping them give her a nice birthday is setting an example they won't forget. His sons will learn that lesson and I don't see that as making yourself a doormat or betamale.

65 posted on 02/24/2017 2:23:26 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: WilliamCooper1

>>>Why is this so hard for you guys to figure out?<<<

Because most guys put women on a pedestal. And most women think a man should treat a woman better than a woman should treat a man in the same situation.

That’s my opinion for observing life here in America.


66 posted on 02/24/2017 2:24:15 PM PST by BJ1
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To: NEMDF

The parents put themselves before their children. It’s that simple. The children do not get unconditional love from the parents nor an example for the future.

Where we go from there: the decline of traditional values and America as it is today . . . strange men in the girls restroom.


67 posted on 02/24/2017 2:25:28 PM PST by donna ('God's standards, like it or not, are the basis for the laws that led to western civilization.)
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To: BJ1

“Because most guys put women on a pedestal. And most women think a man should treat a woman better than a woman should treat a man in the same situation.”

That’s why I believe in treating American women like complete garbage. They’ve been taught they’re equal to men, don’t need men, don’t need special protection.

So, they don’t get any of it from me.

It’s Beta males like the guy in this story that’s the reason that American women think they can run roughshod over every man. That and the family courts that women have as their ace in the hole.


68 posted on 02/24/2017 2:30:53 PM PST by WilliamCooper1
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To: Responsibility2nd
I disagree with it. The greatest gift a father can give his son is to teach him to be a man, and that includes having respect for himself AND having the qualities of a leader, especially within one's own family. If the mother is a good woman, she should be treated as such. If she is a faithless whore who ran off with another guy, she should receive nothing more than routine courtesy, and then only for the sake of the children, otherwise she should be treated like a faithless whore.

Somehow, the concept of chivalry got warped into the idea that men should be subservient to women, and that a "real man" bends over and takes it in the shorts in accordance with whatever whim fills a woman's head any given day. That concept is not only detrimental to society, but it is as unbiblical as one can get.
69 posted on 02/24/2017 2:31:23 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: BJ1
"I'm raising two little men. The example I set for how I treat their mom is going to significantly shape how they see and treat women and affect their perception of relationships.

I find occasion to use a related saying often, "How you treat your parents is how your children will treat you." I have seen that in real life many times.

70 posted on 02/24/2017 2:39:39 PM PST by arthurus
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To: BJ1

I used to buy a little gift for my kids to give to their dad, my ex, on holidays. Believe me I was over him, but he was their dad, and I wanted to teach them to be thoughtful and giving.


71 posted on 02/24/2017 2:40:40 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: IC Ken

If he treats his children and his ex well and she downs him a lot it will come back on her in unwanted ways and severely.


72 posted on 02/24/2017 2:40:54 PM PST by arthurus
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To: BJ1

That’s what I first thought, wondering what kind of idiot would do this but after thinking about it, he’s going to be considered a great father by his sons one of these days. God bless you Billy. It takes guts to do what you’ve done and I hope she appreciates it!


73 posted on 02/24/2017 2:42:06 PM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: WilliamCooper1

>>>That’s why I believe in treating American women like complete garbage. They’ve been taught they’re equal to men, don’t need men, don’t need special protection.<<<

I was raised to treat a woman you wanted to date in a chivalrous manner. And to a lesser extent to treat all women special. Such as offering your seat to woman, just because she’s a woman. But my whole life women have been loud and proud as a group to tell everyone how capable they are. How independent they are. How smart they are.

I disagree now with treating women more special then men. I’ll reserve good treatment for my wife and her alone. But I can’t quite come to same conclusion that treating them as garbage is the answer. How is that working out for you in your own life?


74 posted on 02/24/2017 2:44:11 PM PST by BJ1
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To: donna

The reality is that these parents are no longer together. You can condemn them all to heck for having split up, but they have split up.

Therefore, it is important that they take the correct steps into the present and future, so that the best outcome can be achieved, considering the facts.

What are the parents to do, in this type of situation, after they are no longer married to one another?


75 posted on 02/24/2017 2:52:06 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: BJ1
What do I say? I say, they created children together and that is forever.

I believe that we reap what we sow and that living forgiveness, love and mercy, no matter what, are the very best seeds to sow of all...especially for his children's mom!

Fwiw, I didn't get a dad until I was 11 and it was a very tense experience for all three of us. It didn't take very long before they decided to send me away to school to save their new marriage.

It can take a very long time to figure out how to be a good man, and to be a good husband, and to be a good dad, even if you have, but especially if you've not, seen it done before.

I'm grateful for my parents and I've always known that they did the best they could with what they had.

None the less, I believe I wouldn't have wasted so much time, mine and other people's, or made so many dumb mistakes, if I had had such an example in my life growing up.

76 posted on 02/24/2017 3:06:48 PM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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To: snarkytart

True, however, in the situation where one spouse decides unilaterally to get up and leave, the abandoned spouse has no options in “no-fault” divorce to staying married.


77 posted on 02/24/2017 3:24:32 PM PST by Susquehanna Patriot (Do Leftist/Liberals Really Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: BJ1

Perfectly fine. It may come as a surprise to you, but deep down they like to be treated like garbage.


78 posted on 02/24/2017 3:28:27 PM PST by WilliamCooper1
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To: fr_freak

You’re also missing this part: When a man cheats, he’s a pig. When a woman cheats, it’s because the man has been emotionally neglectful and doesn’t care.

Lifetime movies have normalized this line of reasoning.


79 posted on 02/24/2017 3:30:23 PM PST by WilliamCooper1
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To: Rusty0604

Did you go to his house and cook him dinner, bring him flowers, and clean his house?


80 posted on 02/24/2017 3:31:19 PM PST by WilliamCooper1
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