[HonkyTonkMan]

I have attended men's events at churches over the years. I have noticed a trend where women have started attending these "men's" events. Seems intrusive to me -- why not let the men have a little space and build each other up.

Similarly, I believe its good for men/fathers to spend time with their daughters in a forum without mom. It's a special time to build a relationship.

[Chickensoup]

After watching women working on a nativity place girls in the roles of the Kings, marginalizing the boys, I walked away from the church with a year.