Posted on 04/20/2017 12:56:53 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
Yes, and DNA results in 24 hours.
Weird science, that.
I couldn’t agree with you more except for a big “But”.
These officers that turned her down were almost certainly following direct orders as were their officers. This “stand down” order allowing “their” troops to kill “our” troops was direct from the “Whitehouse”.
I know historically that lower ranking officers ignored “orders” in heated combat situations and some got away with it. But, “Generals” denying orders doesn’t happen very often. McArthur tried it and Truman fired him.
So, your angst should rightfully be addressed to these folks Commander in Chief NOT some duty officer Major or Colonel back in the Theater operations shack.
Right now, last I checked, we’re still spending tens of millions guarding him.
I am well aware, but there are the laws of man and society without which there would be chaos in this world. We cannot expect such heinous crimes to go unpunished here, or in the hereafter.
Post of the thread. I agree completely. I salute YOU.
There was no “payback” and the idea of it is ridiculous. I wish people would stop saying this. In a firefight there is always the golden bullet. Many helicopters were downed by lucky RPG shots - watch Blackhawk Down. It happens.
The real outrage is the ridiculous rules of engagement (ROE). We lost EOD soldiers and other troops because our units maintaining overwatch on roads could only watch as insurgents placed IED’s in the road because of the ROE. Like clockwork, the next morning EOD units had to go out and clear the IED’s in the road after armed men watched them place them only hours earlier. Rinse and repeat. This is an example of the stupidity forced upon our military - commanders are more afraid of our media and politicians than they are of losing our soldiers.
There was no “trade” of the SEALS. They volunteered to go when they were listening to the firefight because they believed the Rangers were in trouble. They jumped on the first available bird. It was NOT a planned mission.
Despite the article being difficult to read, it effectively makes the case that the firepower was available to eliminate the enemy, but the ROE did not allow it and commanders refused to resolve the situation. Had this been done the ill-fated flight would never have occurred. Salute to this Captain for telling the real story - one that has been repeated ad nauseum in the sandbox.
And Navel Intelligence said what ?
Naval
Your assumption that any expenditure of money is reasonable to support our troops on the ground. You have no argument from me.
The argument, or at least a point of discussion would be to ask a couple of “Why” followup questions. These inevitably end up with “Why are our troops still there fighting the Taliban.”
THAT is the point of discussion that has to take place. Were those eight Taliban a threat the the National Security of the United States?
I would suggest that in the grand scheme of things, they are not. They are bad guys and they are a threat to civilized people in Afghanistan—but that is not our problem. We blew up the people that were the problem to us.
After a while we are going to have to say, “enough.” Our guys and women did their job and they did it well. But our war was NOT supposed to be against the Taliban—it was against AQ.
I know many people on this forum are unable to loosen their bite once its laid in. But in this example, we are wasting people—good, honorable, and exceptionally well trained people and material, on a target that does not matter.
And that is the worst use of force that can be imagined. Those eight Taliban soldiers were NOT going to impact life in America, to American families and the future of our country than the loss of the SEALs and all of the wasted effort.
It is my wish that we risk lives when it matters. Any other use is a waste of time, material and mostly, warriors.
Thanks. Interesting report. Bold of her to speak up.
The final stop is that officers take an oath to their Constitution and no one else. Did they do so, or did they commit treason against their men and their country? They obviously were not man enough to man up.
Lt. Colonel Michael Lakin, MD. did man up and went to jail.
As far as I know, your right, no one else has.
Those at the very top could have pulled some strings and influence events...............in my opinion. But, they just sat back and went for the ride that was being imposed by Obama and Jarrett and certain other top tier civilians.
It just seemed to me that there was no push back at all.
then why to they protect him?....
agreed
The SEALs don’t “protect him”, the SS does. Now that he is a private citizen, he falls into an entirely different category - action would not amount to a coup d’etat.
Yes, it is a sad testament to our times. The young willing die for their country and all the military brass do is protect their asses. The saga of Extortion 17 is the apex of military political corruption and betrayal.
..............couldn’t agree more! I try not to think about Extortion 17 it makes me so mad!
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