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To: DiogenesLamp; rockrr; DoodleDawg; BroJoeK
I don't know if that's true or not. I suppose it would depend upon where I was raised, even so, i've always been an old softie, especially when it comes to making other people work instead of doing my own work. I can't stand doing that now.

Yeah, everybody in the world is self-interested and mercenary, but, you and only you are an old softie. And it's everybody else who's a hypocrite!

Know thyself. If you are forever thinking up excuses and justifications for slaveowners in 2017, your hypothetical self would have been doing the same thing in 1860.

425 posted on 05/10/2017 3:53:40 PM PDT by x
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Yeah, everybody in the world is self-interested and mercenary, but, you and only you are an old softie. And it's everybody else who's a hypocrite!

We need to make this about me? I'm sure there were plenty of old softies back in those days as well, they just weren't a majority, or even close to a majority. (Till Later.)

Know thyself. If you are forever thinking up excuses and justifications for slaveowners in 2017, your hypothetical self would have been doing the same thing in 1860.

Well see there, you have a completely different view of what I am doing than do I. I can't recall having made a single justification for slaveowners, I merely point out that it was legal at the time and protected by the then US Constitution. I also point out that under the Principles articulated in the Nation's founding document, these slaverowners had the same right to leave as did the original slaveowner founders. You see, unlike you, I am not caught up in the slavery issue to the exclusion of all other factors.

I simply acknowledge how things were at that time. I don't have to agree with it to speak the truth about it.

If being slaveowners was no impediment to the Founders obtaining independence, the same standard should also apply "four score and seven years" later.

439 posted on 05/11/2017 10:46:42 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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